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Did anyone hear the rumor that some of them may be converted to Coaches? I kind of find it odd that they would be, I figured it is more likely they may be held to be converted to Diner-Lounges.

If you want your own entertainment, bring your own.

It will be interesting to see what happens with this politics mess. Yea I am into Politics.

Thanks for that, also does 303's set still become the next day 304 in KC?

Rafi, Could you see them running the cars in pairs during testing stage without a Diner?

304's equipment comes from KC. It could be tried, but would I? No.

In 2003, I took 3 Amtrak Trips, all 3 of them had AC Failers in a Horizon Coach, Superliner Sleeper (just my room) and a Pacific parlor car, at least the Toliets were in a Good State of Repair.

Are we sure this wasn't a Computer error?

Does MSP even have a Mechanical Staff, I think they were all "Canned" at the end of M&E.

It came in on the Hoosier State on Sunday, I did see it, sorry no pics.

That would be one of the Pacific Surfliner painted F59's.

My feeling is that, our system is way over taxed especially our ATC system and compared to Europe and Asia, our Technology is in the Stone Age, once we fix it, it will be too late.

If Amtrak was smart they would have included the underside of the car in the Refurbishment. How does it improve a good state of repair when only doing seat cousions?

They look like a nice carrier. Remeber that orginally they wanted to have more foreign ownership than what was allowed, so they had to pluck Don Carty out of retirement and not use there first choice which was Fred Reid, but was allowed to stay for 6 Months though.

I'd be really suspiousis and would avoid buying them personally.

Technical Problems for the most part aren't Managerial Problems, the Taglo Design is the problem.

They have Robbed cars from the extra Del Mar Set in LA and from the NEC. That I know of.

Considerng how much Wine is it will likley be $30.00 a glass on GrandDeLux consideirng how expensive the wine they serve likley is.

Plus NWA is going to be hiring more Pilots. Here is the link what Mr.FSS was talking about http://www.startribune.com/535/story/1338586.html

When my Mom took a later than h*** EB, only Sleeping cars got Free Meals, they did have very little left in the Lounge.