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Discussion in 'Amtrak FAQs & First-Time Rider Info' started by brianpmcdonnell17, Jan 25, 2018.
Houston,San Antonio,Alpine,El Paso and Tucson.
I didn't realize Utica can sometimes be called as a smoke/stretch stop, IF the train is on time going through there on Lake Shore Limited, Maple Leaf, and etc. Interesting to learn. When I took the Lake Shore Limited a few years ago going back from NYC to Chicago, Utica wasn't called as such a stop for passengers going through there to later destinations to briefly get off to stretch/smoke/etc.
I believe those are engine crew change points.
I found it interesting to note the stops on the Meteor between Savanah and Washington DC.
I’ve always been asleep and missed them and am usually eating breakfast during the DC stop.
I haven't been through Houston on the Sunset Limited, but San Antonio Alpine, El Paso, and Tucson were all smoke stops when I rode #2/#422 earlier this year.
Already stated by Bob Dylan (Jim) yesterday.
Where? I didn't see.
Look in this quote....
Oh, I saw that post. My post was responding to Palmetto, who had corrected Jim that those stops were engine crew change points, and not smoke stops. So I was responding that they were smoke stops when I rode it.
That quote is YOUR quote that YOU yourself posted!
This one is (obviously) mine...
...but I was talking about to (and I think AmtrakBlue was as well) this post by Bob Dylan:
Note your own post (#51), and the 2nd quoted post entry by Bob Dylan.
At this point I'm probably just hallucinating, but I don't see a post #51 anywhere, and only see one post by Bob Dylan, which was quoted and responded to by Palmetto, who I responded to. I'm totally derailing this thread at this point, though.
At Portland, OR, you can't smoke on the platform, and you need to go out the building to smoke, per memo by the City of Portland.
Also, I heard that smoking is prohibited at Sacramento Valley Rail Station platform and building. Can anyone verify or refute my claims on Sacramento being a non-smoking stop?
I have seen passengers smoking on the platform in Sacramento. I also had a morning when the Zephyr and Capitol Corridor met and the CZ passengers were smoking. A guy came off the CC, looked at the smokers at the end of the platform then ran to an SCA and started insisting on his conductor. A conductor showed up, listened to the guy rant and then walked down to the smokers. They finished up and walked away. I heard later that smoking was not allowed but it wasn’t an enforced rule. So as of a month ago, people smoked on the end of the platform but I have no idea if it is official not allowed.
Never have ridden Coast Starlight(Seattle-LA), but I believe I've supposedly heard from others who've ridden that train that the Sacramento platform is non-smoking. I'll guess that rule isn't enforced, just as I'd suspect....
I have been to Sac multiple times. Once every so many minutes, this announcement will show up that the TTS announcer will say:
And of course, I have yet to see someone busted there for smoking.
Grand Forks, ND is not a smoke stop. It's usually blocking a crossing while there.
I just looked over arrival and departure times, and I think you're right that it isn't a smoke stop unlike what I thought for the Empire Builder. I am starting to think Winnemucca, NV might be a smoke stop for the California Zephyr, looking at its arrival and departure times from that station on most days.
I move to strike Wishram from 27/28's list of smoking stops. Pasco, yes, if you're awake in the middle of the night... but if you are on time, Wishram is a 30 second pause.
Really the many times I've gone thru (both directions) I had a chance to burn at least one or two each time. Last trip I stood there chatting with the Conductor while he knocked one out! Also, was time at the old Winter Park stop at Depot Road (if memory serves me right) not the current Winter Park stop used only for the Winter Park Express.
Winnemucca was a smoke stop last westbound trip.
Smoke em if ya got em, field strip when finished.
Watching the VRF cam it appears that Barstow is a smoke stop for at least the Eastbound SWC. Westbound is typically very early in the morning, so I don’t know if they offer it then.
I later found this map that shows Winnemucca is a crew change point(at http://trn.trains.com/~/media/files/pdf/map-of-the-month/trn-m0506_a.pdf ), so I'd say that for sure would be a smoke/stretch stop.
I always have fieldstripped my cigs, that's for sure! Hate that too many smokers still litter, ugh.
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