Stretch/Smoke Stop List

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  1. Jan 25, 2018 #1

    brianpmcdonnell17

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    Blue Water/Wolverine:

    Battle Creek, MI*

    California Zephyr:

    Sacramento, CA

    Reno, NV

    Winnemucca, NV

    Salt Lake City, UT

    Grand Junction, CO

    Glenwood Springs, CO

    Fraser-Winter Park, CO

    Denver, CO

    Omaha, NE

    Ottumwa, IA

    Galesburg, IL

    Capitol Limited:

    Toledo, OH

    Cleveland, OH

    Pittsburgh, PA

    Cumberland, MD

    Cardinal:

    Indianapolis, IN

    Cincinnati, OH

    Huntington, WV

    Charlottesville, VA

    Washington, DC

    Cascades:

    Portland, OR*

    Seattle, WA*

    City of New Orleans:

    Jackson, MS*

    Greenwood, MS*

    Memphis, TN*

    Carbondale, IL*

    Champaign/Urbana, IL*

    Coast Starlight:

    Santa Barbara, CA

    San Luis Obispo, CA

    Salinas, CA

    San Jose, CA (no smoking)

    Oakland, CA

    Sacramento, CA

    Klamath Falls, OR

    Eugene, OR

    Portland, OR

    Crescent:

    Meridian, MS*

    Birmingham, AL*

    Atlanta, GA

    Greenville, SC

    Charlotte, NC

    Charlottesville, VA

    Washington, DC

    Empire Builder:

    Wishram, WA (Portland branch only)*

    Pasco, WA (Portland branch only)*

    Wenatchee, WA (Seattle branch only)

    Spokane, WA

    Whitefish, MT

    Shelby, MT

    Havre, MT

    Williston, ND

    Minot, ND*

    St. Paul/Minneapolis, MN

    Winona, MN

    Milwaukee, WI (no smoking)

    Heartland Flyer:

    Ardmore, OK*

    Lake Shore Limited:

    Toledo, OH

    Cleveland, OH

    Buffalo/Depew, NY

    Rochester, NY

    Syracuse, NY

    Albany/Rensselaer, NY

    Springfield, MA (Boston branch only)

    Maple Leaf

    Niagara Falls, ON (Westbound only)*

    Niagara Falls, NY (Eastbound only)*

    Buffalo/Depew, NY*

    Rochester, NY*

    Syracuse, NY*

    Utica, NY*

    Albany/Rensselaer, NY*

    Missouri River Runner:

    Jefferson City, MO*

    Northeast Regional #65/66/67:

    Richmond, VA*

    Washington, DC*

    Baltimore, MD*

    Wilmington, DE*

    Philadelphia, PA*

    New York, NY (no smoking on platform)

    New Haven, CT

    Providence, RI*

    Pennsylvanian:

    Harrisburg, PA

    Philadelphia, PA

    Silver Meteor:

    Orlando, FL

    Jacksonville, FL

    Savannah, GA

    Florence, SC

    Richmond, VA

    Washington, DC

    Silver Star:

    Tampa, FL

    Orlando, FL

    Jacksonville, FL

    Savannah, GA

    Columbia, SC

    Raleigh, NC

    Richmond, VA

    Washington, DC

    Southwest Chief:

    Kingman, AZ*

    Flagstaff, AZ*

    Gallup, NM*

    Albuquerque, NM*

    Raton, NM*

    La Junta, CO*

    Kansas City, MO*

    Fort Madison, IA*

    Sunset Limited:

    Houston, TX*

    San Antonio, TX*

    Alpine, TX*

    El Paso, TX*

    Tucson, AZ*

    Texas Eagle

    Austin, TX*

    Temple, TX*

    Fort Worth, TX*

    Dallas, TX*

    Longview, TX*

    Texarkana, AR/TX*

    Little Rock, AR*

    St. Louis, MO*

    Springfield, IL*

    Note: These are the stretch stops on the trips I have been on, but they may vary slightly by trip. I excluded stops which I have been able to get out at but were clearly not normal stretch stops. If you have information on the trains I have yet to ride or revisions to the trains I have posted please contribute.

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  2. Jan 25, 2018 #2

    BuffaloBoy

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    One subtraction you should make is the Zephyr stop at Winterpark-Fraser. I have never been able to get off there for a fresh-air Marlboro Light, and I have traveled through there at 12 or 13 times.
     
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    I guess smokers just abstain between Boston and Washington? New York could be tricky, unless you know how to get street side.
     
  4. Jan 25, 2018 #4

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    YMMV. I have been ridden the CZ numerous times and have never known it not to be a smoke break.
     
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    Thank you for this!
     
  6. Jan 25, 2018 #6

    Palmetto

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    And the Vermonter?
     
  7. Jan 25, 2018 #7

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    As of last week I was told by the Conductors that Cumberland is no longer a stretch/smoke stop for the CL. This was the case both east and west bound.
     
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  8. Jan 26, 2018 #8

    brianpmcdonnell17

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    The last time I rode was eastbound on January 6th. We were about two hours late and Cumberland was a stretch stop, although very brief. In the past I remember the stop being longer. It is possible it is now crew discretion as to whether passengers are let out or not.
     
  9. Jan 26, 2018 #9

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    Two Cascades trains in each direction have a stretch/smoke stop. Trains 500 and 505 between Seattle and Eugene have a stretch/smoke stop in Portland, and trains 517 and 518 between Vancouver, BC, and Portland have a stretch/smoke stop in Seattle.
     
  10. Jan 26, 2018 #10

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    I was once on a Sunset Limited which was 12 minutes early into Sanderson, Texas. The conductor opened the doors and made it a smoke stop!
     
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    We once had a 45 minute stop at Alpine, TX on #2/422. Way ahead of schedule!
     
  12. Jan 26, 2018 #12

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    Smoke and stretch at those stops. Fresh air,

    I doubt it.
     
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    Depending on where you are you can get far enough away from the smokers.

    I'm a non smoker and I usually do find these to be refreshing and useful just to get out of the train and literally get fresh air and depending on the time of day, sunshine. I found getting water bottles at Albany to be useful and the general store at Grand Junction, CO useful.
     
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    Because the stop can be a double spot situation, there is usually little time to let people off for a smoke. If the train eastbound is on time or early there is a chance, but one time I got off in sleeper up front and then waited until they spotted the coach on the rear and hopped on there. But when they only spot for the coach, everyone had to move to the coach past the SSL to get off and that left really no time for any smoking or stretching. They may now have decided to do away with these hassles and just keep non transcients on the train.
     
  16. Jan 26, 2018 #16

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    Posts not specific to smoking/fresh air stops removed.
     
  17. Jan 26, 2018 #17

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    Thank you to the OP for maintaining a master list. Thank you to members for your additional contributions. In order to attempt to maintain a "clean" and informative thread, we have removed the posts that have suggested additions after the OP has added them to his master list.
     
  18. Jan 27, 2018 #18

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    That's the problem with a list like this. ALL fresh air stops are based upon scheduled dwell. Anything outside of that is at crew discretion. By the same token, any stop that have a significant dwell can be made into a fresh air stop at the discretion of the crew. An example is around the major holidays, when freight traffic is low. Plenty of stops became fresh air stops.

    The funny thing is New York is listed under 66 and you're not allowed to smoke on the platform.
     
  19. Feb 6, 2018 #19

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    The Lake Shore Limited smoke stops listed above are correct, since I rode that train once from New York back home to Chicago. In fact, I recall one of the conductors on that trip clearly announced that South Bend was NOT a smoking stop, and he said it in a funny N-O-T way. I think I once heard from someone else that Meridian, MS is supposedly a smoke stop on the Crescent, south of Atlanta. Birmingham supposedly was one too, but I don't know if it'll still be called as one now that this station was just renovated. Maybe someone else could update about the smoke stop status, of Birmingham?

    Jefferson City has been sometimes called as a smoke stop for Missouri River Runner trains, but I don't know if it's always called as one. Ditto with Battle Creek, for Michigan service trains. And for the City of New Orleans(hadn't ridden in forever, though):

    Champaign-Urbana(dunno if this one has changed)

    Carbondale(if you're up late at night)

    Memphis

    Greenwood(this is a crew change point)

    Jackson

    If there are any errors I made with where the CONO smoke stops are nowadays, feel free to correct.
     
  20. Feb 6, 2018 #20

    brianpmcdonnell17

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    I have edited the post to reflect your information. While I have never been on that segment of the Crescent, I doubt Birmingham's status as a stretch stop has changed with the new station as the platform itself is still the same.
     
  21. Feb 26, 2018 #21

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    Ardmore, OK, is the lone smoke stop for the Heartland Flyer.

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  22. Mar 14, 2018 #22

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    And the Sunset Limited?
     
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    Maple Leaf

    Niagara Falls, ON (Northbound)

    Niagara Falls, NY (Southbound)
     
  24. Mar 23, 2018 #24

    brianpmcdonnell17

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    Do you know if there are any others? I would think Albany-Rensselaer would be a stretch stop as well, if not Syracuse, Rochester, and/or Buffalo-Depew.
     
  25. Mar 23, 2018 #25

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    This is correct and sometimes you can also get off in Utica if on time!
     

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