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  1. Mar 8, 2016 #151

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    How many consist sets does the Capital Limited currently have? A few months ago I saw what appears to be a complete Superliner train at Washington DC around 6:30 PM in the Ivy City yard. I thought there was a service disruption then but I checked and the Capital Limited already departed that day. I've been through DC before and since but that one time was the only time I saw that extra Superliner set- that could indeed be a fourth set to the Capital Limited, even though the listing earlier in this topic says there are only 3 sets.
     
  2. Mar 8, 2016 #152

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    Three, the DC turnaround is not long enough for a same day turn.
     
  3. Mar 10, 2016 #153

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    That may have been the time the Cardinal ran with a Superliner set and terminated/turned in WAS.
     
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    Revised to read:

    19/20 Crescent

    Electric Locomotive NYP-WAS

    Diesel Locomotive WAS-NOL

    Diesel Locomotive WAS-NOL

    -----I------ -------LDSL Baggage Car

    1911/2011----- Viewliner Sleeper

    1910/2010---- Viewliner Sleeper

    ------l------ ------Heritage Diner

    1978/2078------Business Class

    ------I------ ------Lounge

    1940/2040------Amfleet II Coach

    1941/2041------Amfleet II Coach

    1942/2042------Amfleet II Coach
     
  5. Apr 1, 2016 #155

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    Regional trains that service the NECorridor are likely to see the business class and quiet cars move to the rear of the train soon.
     
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    Why are they moving business class/quiet cars to the back?

    Also, do they have enough business class cars to use on the long-distance trains?
     
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    To facilitate operations at various facilities.

    Probably not.
     
  8. May 15, 2016 #158

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    There is another amendment to the consist. Effective 5/15, the consist for the Crescent will be as follows until further notice:

    19/20 Crescent

    Electric Locomotive NYP-WAS

    Diesel Locomotive WAS-NOL

    Diesel Locomotive WAS-NOL

    -----I------ -------LDSL Baggage Car

    1978/2078------Business Class

    1911/2011----- Viewliner Sleeper

    1910/2010---- Viewliner Sleeper

    ------l------ ------Heritage Diner

    ------I------ ------Lounge

    1940/2040------Amfleet II Coach

    1941/2041------Amfleet II Coach

    1942/2042------Amfleet II Coach
     
  9. Aug 28, 2016 #159

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    Does the EB still drop a coach at MSP?
     
  10. Aug 29, 2016 #160

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    The EB does not currently add or drop equipment at MSP.
     
  11. Nov 20, 2016 #161

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    Thirrail7 (I can't quote stuff):

    That was a few months ago. If the Cardinal was operating with Superliners a few months ago, then I would be thrilled.
     
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    It did for a run or two. I think it was when a bridge was out, and when they resumed service there wasn't a Cardinal equipment set in CHI to resume service, so they used Superliners to WAS until the equipment situation sorted itself out. Maybe a year or so ago at this point.
     
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    California Zephyr

    6 sets

    CHI pool

    Mid-Spring, Summer, Fall

    ----|---- ——

    Baggage

    0540|0640 —— Superliner Dorm/Sleeper

    0510|0610 —— Superliner Coach *

    0511|0611 —— Superliner Coach

    0512|0612 —— Superliner Coach (seasonal)

    ----|---- —— Superliner Lounge

    ----|---- —— Superliner Diner

    0531|0631 —— Superliner Sleeper

    0532|0632 —— Superliner Sleeper

    0530|0630 —— Superliner Sleeper (seasonal)

    * One of the coaches is often a baggage coach.

    5/6

    California Zephyr

    6 sets

    CHI pool

    Mid-January to early-spring (exact start/end dates vary)

    ----|---- —— Baggage

    0540|0640 —— Superliner Dorm/Sleeper

    0531|0631 —— Superliner Sleeper

    0532|0632 —— Superliner Sleeper

    ----|---- —— Superliner Diner

    ----|---- —— Superliner Lounge

    0510|0610 —— Superliner Coach *

    0511|0611 —— Superliner Coach

    0512|0612 —— Superliner Coach (seasonal)

    * One of the coaches is often a baggage coach.
     
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    KmH, on 11 January 2017 - 04:01 PM said-

    5/6

    California Zephyr

    6 sets

    CHI pool

    Mid-January to early-spring (exact start/end dates vary)

    ----|---- —— Baggage

    0540|0640 —— Superliner Dorm/Sleeper

    0531|0631 —— Superliner Sleeper

    0532|0632 —— Superliner Sleeper

    ----|---- —— Superliner Diner

    ----|---- —— Superliner Lounge

    0510|0610 —— Superliner Coach *

    0511|0611 —— Superliner Coach

    0512|0612 —— Superliner Coach (seasonal)

    * One of the coaches is often a baggage coach.
    Spot-on. Looks like CZ winter change began last week 10-11 Jan 2017, per Galesburg & Truckee Railcams. Seven-car consist now,

    Sleepers on head end.
     
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  16. Nov 12, 2019 #166

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    At some point since my last trip, the Empire Builder has changed the numbering of the sleeper lines. The 0730 car has "always" been the sleeper closest to the diner, the 0731 has been the second sleeper in summer / transdorm in winter, 0732 the transdorm when two sleepers are running.

    Yesterday the 0731 car was the only sleeper, and the transdorm was 0732. Will have to wait and see if that means they will be 0731/32/33 when the second sleeper comes back or not.
     
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    Speaking of this, how often has the Cardinal ever ran with Superliner cars? I sure have a feeling it's probably been rare when that has occurred, and only when the train is started/ended in Washington, DC, due to NEC track construction work that'd prevent it from being run all the way into NYC.
     
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    If only the Superliners could fit north of Baltimore and travel th.e NEC to New York.
     
  19. Nov 25, 2019 #169

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    It actually happens a few times a year, under extreme circumstances. 51(pd) turns for 50(sd) in Chicago. If something major happens to inbound 51 and if they have the equipment, they will operate 50 with Superliners. It will terminate in WAS and passengers for north of DC will transfer to another train. The next time 51 operates, it will originate in WAS, with passengers from NYP-WAS placed on another train.



    Even if they fit, you'd need to modify the platforms in multiple stations to support their low-level operation.
     
  20. Nov 25, 2019 #170

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    There have been two extended periods that I'm aware of and, as Thirdrail pointed out, a few ad hoc occasions. I was fortunate to ride during one of the longer assignments in early 2000's. Sightseer lounge on that route would be a great bonus if it ever became permanent. Having Superliners would also fix the continual sleeper capacity issue.

     

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