Heartland Flyer

[printman2000]

I am considering a day trip on the Flyer in a couple of weeks. Just curious if anyone know if they are still using refurbished Sante Fe Hi-Level coaches?

 

[Midland Valley]

They were in August when we rode to Ft. Worth and back on it.

 

[battalion51]

I saw a picture a couple of days ago and they were. I think there is a Superliner Snack Coach or Bag Coach in the three car consist, can't remember which though.

 

[Trogdor]

Snack coach.

 

[printman2000]

Do they still operate it with locomotives on both ends? Or just one?

 

[saxman]

Do they still operate it with locomotives on both ends? Or just one?

There are still locomotives on both ends. In fact a fourth car will be added to the consist this month.

 

[user 683]

I was just checking out the http://www.heartlandflyer.com/ web site. Sounds like an enjoyable ride! The Santa Fe coaches are a really nice touch of class.

Deimos

 

[battalion51]

I think they actually went back to using Cabbage 90229 on one end. Not 100% on that, but I think they did.

 

[AmtrakFan]

I think they actually went back to using Cabbage 90229 on one end. Not 100% on that, but I think they did.

Yes they still do use the Cabbage on the rear.

 

[user 683]

Out of curiosity - I Googled "cabbage 90229" - several of the first returns include web pages with pictures of this retrofitted CAB BAGGAGE unit. For the other rookies out there - check out the folllowing link http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/LocoPictu...e.aspx?id=16708.

More curiosity - it appears Amtrak has a number of cabbage units - reference the following link - as seen in Chicago http://chicago.railfan.net/cgi/photos.pl/?...ge=AMTK_Cabbage

What routes (other than Heartland Flyer and Hiawatha) are cabbage units typical used on?

Thanks

Deimos

 

[battalion51]

Hiawatha's, the Heartland Flyer, Surfliner 798/799, Michigan Service, some short Illinois service, and the Downeaster. In general for the Midwest service (except the Hiawatha's) either two engines or an engine an cabbage will be used interchangeably.

 

[Guest]

B 51

Thanks as always.....you certainly seem to have an in-depth tech background...

Deimos

 

[Anthony]

Does the Cascades still use cabbage cars?

 

[Trogdor]

In general for the Midwest service (except the Hiawatha's) either two engines or an engine an cabbage will be used interchangeably.

Why do you say "except for the Hiawathas," in that message?

Does the Cascades still use cabbage cars?

The Cascades units aren't "cabbages," per se, as they don't have a baggage door. But they are NPCU ex-F40s.

 

[AmtrakFan]

Trains that use Cabbages or 2 Locomotives in the Midwest are

The Hiawahta

The Wolverines

The Blue Water

Illinois Zephyr does during the Summer when it has Lower Level Cars.

 

[battalion51]

I forgot about the Cascades, my bad. What I meant by "(except the Hiawatha's)" is that the Hiawatha's almost always have an engine and a cab car, where as other routes seem to interchange between two engines and an engine and a cab car.

 

[sechs]

Are the cars used on the Cascades actually cabbages?

They don't use them for baggage, do they? The Talgo sets have their own baggage cars.

 

[AmtrakFan]

Are the cars used on the Cascades actually cabbages?
They don't use them for baggage, do they? The Talgo sets have their own baggage cars.

They are NPCU's but people still call them Cabbages, they aren't used for Baggage.

 

[doveman]

What is the consist of this train?

 

[printman2000]

What is the consist of this train?

Looks like they use two coaches (old SF Hi Level cars) and a Superliner Coach/Cafe car sandwiched in between.