I saw this ad in a 1998 table. Looks like five engines pulling that train. Did this really ever happen? Done for the picture in the ad, only?
I saw this ad in a 1998 table. Looks like five engines pulling that train. Did this really ever happen? Done for the picture in the ad, only?
Those are P40s right? Unless they cut out a set of 10 express mail trailers on the end I can't imagine why you would need that much power.
Actually at one time the CZ had 3 train on the eastern half attached together - the CZ, the Desert Wind and the Pioneer!This looks like a combined train. Perhaps there was some deal where they had to hook up two trains to run together. They combined all the power up front. You can see the baggage car in the middle and there are clearly two sightseer lounges.
I know nothing about it, but didn't the CZ used to have a second train attached to it and separated somewhere? Could this be it?
This was an ad from 1998. In the May 1998 release of Photoshop Adobe added "multiple undo", "color management", and the lasso tool as new features. Photoshop was cutting edge consumer software at the time, as it still is today, but it couldn't do anywhere near the sorts of things that are now possible and which we think of as "an hour's work by anyone who knows what they're doing". "Blending" wasn't added until 2000; "Healing Brush" in 2002; layer groups in 2003. So, while image manipulation has been around since at least the 1930s, even in 1998 it would have still been a process involving a lot of very skilled work largely with an actual photo/negative, not a computer program. The CIA or KGB could have done excellent image manipulation on this scale in 1998, but Amtrak could not have.Seriously doubt they went to the trouble to "Photoshop" anything.
That was probably when they were hauling a bunch of box cars on the end of the train.
What kind of paint scheme does the P42 in that photo have? I've never seen anything like that with the extra blue stripe on the bottom and the smaller Amtrak logo to the right of the door. Was that a standard paint scheme for a while or just something experimental?
I would assume that is a very early version of the current paint scheme. They probably simplified it a bit since then.What kind of paint scheme does the P42 in that photo have? I've never seen anything like that with the extra blue stripe on the bottom and the smaller Amtrak logo to the right of the door. Was that a standard paint scheme for a while or just something experimental?
It was the precursor to the current "Phase V" scheme. I recall reading something on the site about it, but can't remember what the thread was discussing.What kind of paint scheme does the P42 in that photo have? I've never seen anything like that with the extra blue stripe on the bottom and the smaller Amtrak logo to the right of the door. Was that a standard paint scheme for a while or just something experimental?
Yes. The first P42s were shipped with the Phase V scheme as seen in the photo-- the extra logo on the cab door, extra stripe of paint... as the orders of P42s were filled they simplified the scheme and fine-tuned it. Many P42s still have *that* scheme on them, just look for the mini-Amtrak logo by the cab door, that means you got a "prototype" or the Phase V scheme!It was the precursor to the current "Phase V" scheme. I recall reading something on the site about it, but can't remember what the thread was discussing.What kind of paint scheme does the P42 in that photo have? I've never seen anything like that with the extra blue stripe on the bottom and the smaller Amtrak logo to the right of the door. Was that a standard paint scheme for a while or just something experimental?
Yes. The first P42s were shipped with the Phase V scheme as seen in the photo-- the extra logo on the cab door, extra stripe of paint... as the orders of P42s were filled they simplified the scheme and fine-tuned it. Many P42s still have *that* scheme on them, just look for the mini-Amtrak logo by the cab door, that means you got a "prototype" or the Phase V scheme!It was the precursor to the current "Phase V" scheme. I recall reading something on the site about it, but can't remember what the thread was discussing.What kind of paint scheme does the P42 in that photo have? I've never seen anything like that with the extra blue stripe on the bottom and the smaller Amtrak logo to the right of the door. Was that a standard paint scheme for a while or just something experimental?
If they were editing the photo, why leave the baggage car in? They could have simply edited it out. Also, I only see one sightseer lounge after the mid baggage. I think you are seeing some shadows. It also does not explain having 5 locos.I'm telling you the ad is photoshopped. At the front is a EB consist, Mid train theres a baggage car, and towards the rear there are two Sightseer Lounges. I rest my case.
cpamtfan-Peter
If they were editing the photo, why leave the baggage car in? They could have simply edited it out. Also, I only see one sightseer lounge after the mid baggage. I think you are seeing some shadows. It also does not explain having 5 locos.I'm telling you the ad is photoshopped. At the front is a EB consist, Mid train theres a baggage car, and towards the rear there are two Sightseer Lounges. I rest my case.
cpamtfan-Peter
I do not see anything that proves it is an edited photo.
I don't believe the photo is edited. However, you're right that there are two Sightseers together. Here's my reading of the consist, having blown the photo up in Photoshop and drawn lines to separate the cars. Cars in parentheses are wild guesses; cars not in parentheses are fairly clear from the photograph. It's an eleven-car consist followed by a nine-car consist, roughly as follows:If they were editing the photo, why leave the baggage car in? They could have simply edited it out. Also, I only see one sightseer lounge after the mid baggage. I think you are seeing some shadows. It also does not explain having 5 locos.I'm telling you the ad is photoshopped. At the front is a EB consist, Mid train theres a baggage car, and towards the rear there are two Sightseer Lounges. I rest my case.
cpamtfan-Peter
I do not see anything that proves it is an edited photo.
If you look very closely, you can see two Sightseers on the last consist. This has to be a photoshop, why would there be two full Superliner consists combined?
cpamtfan-Peter
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