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I saw that the ground breaking for the remodel of the Sanford station was done last week (or maybe two). Has anyone seen a plan for what the layout will be when this project is completed?
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Was there any information on the layout of the tracks or do the tracks stay the same as they are now?
They'd be insane to keep the dual track status. Not saying they won't, just that they'd be insane to do so.Was there any information on the layout of the tracks or do the tracks stay the same as they are now?
The original plans did call for them to totally rework the entrance/exit to Sanford, the platform, and the station to accomodate the full train. I read someplace maybe 6 or 9 months ago that those plans were discarded for cost issues and perhaps another reason that I don't recall, if indeed there was another reason.They'd be insane to keep the dual track status. Not saying they won't, just that they'd be insane to do so.Was there any information on the layout of the tracks or do the tracks stay the same as they are now?
Yeah, but maybe with the stimulus monies they have decided to re do it. It would be awesome, it would cut about 30 minutes off the schedule if they could assemble the car-carrying consist, and then simply shove it onto the back of the consist and take off after the brake test.The original plans did call for them to totally rework the entrance/exit to Sanford, the platform, and the station to accomodate the full train. I read someplace maybe 6 or 9 months ago that those plans were discarded for cost issues and perhaps another reason that I don't recall, if indeed there was another reason.They'd be insane to keep the dual track status. Not saying they won't, just that they'd be insane to do so.Was there any information on the layout of the tracks or do the tracks stay the same as they are now?
The current plan is to keep the current track configuration and just replace the existing station AFAIK.
IMHO It looks like something straight out of the 1950s or 60s! Looks like a heating/cooling nightmare.
It was only because of stimulus monies that Amtrak is even able to go ahead with the plan. And again, I haven't heard that they've changed the plan.Yeah, but maybe with the stimulus monies they have decided to re do it. It would be awesome, it would cut about 30 minutes off the schedule if they could assemble the car-carrying consist, and then simply shove it onto the back of the consist and take off after the brake test.The original plans did call for them to totally rework the entrance/exit to Sanford, the platform, and the station to accomodate the full train. I read someplace maybe 6 or 9 months ago that those plans were discarded for cost issues and perhaps another reason that I don't recall, if indeed there was another reason.They'd be insane to keep the dual track status. Not saying they won't, just that they'd be insane to do so.Was there any information on the layout of the tracks or do the tracks stay the same as they are now?
The current plan is to keep the current track configuration and just replace the existing station AFAIK.
Then maybe they could wipe that hour of padding they put on a couple of years ago.
I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but yea, you hit it exactly.IMHO It looks like something straight out of the 1950s or 60s! Looks like a heating/cooling nightmare.
What would you want it to look like?IMHO It looks like something straight out of the 1950s or 60s! Looks like a heating/cooling nightmare.
A perfect replica, full size, in proper materials and attention to detail, of the original Pennsylvania Station, New York.What would you want it to look like?IMHO It looks like something straight out of the 1950s or 60s! Looks like a heating/cooling nightmare.
A train station.What would you want it to look like?
With or without the Eagle Getting those autoracks in a perfect replica would be a challenge But what a beautiful building. The city "cried" when it was removed.A perfect replica, full size, in proper materials and attention to detail, of the original Pennsylvania Station, New York.What would you want it to look like?IMHO It looks like something straight out of the 1950s or 60s! Looks like a heating/cooling nightmare.
Well, to offer my usual counterpoint, I used the old Penn Station multiple times as a teenager. My opinion is that Pennsylvania Station was a magnificent piece of architecture, but a truly lousy train station. It was cavernous, cold, filthy, and poorly designed for passenger movement. Huge area were useless and deserted in the peak of the day, while other areas were crushed with passengers with no place to sit. The glass roof over what is now the Amtrak concourse leaked like a sieve and was nearly opaque from dirt. The interior was smokey from all the cigarettes with little ventilation to clear the air. It was, in my opinion, a dump: a building you wanted to transit as quickly as possible. In that regard, today's Penn Station is a fitting successor, since it is also a dump that you can't wait to leave.With or without the Eagle Getting those autoracks in a perfect replica would be a challenge But what a beautiful building. The city "cried" when it was removed.A perfect replica, full size, in proper materials and attention to detail, of the original Pennsylvania Station, New York.
Unfortunately, it looks very similar in style to a lot of other newer public buildings that have cropped up over the past few years in Florida. At any rate, at least it will be an improvement on the current station.I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but yea, you hit it exactly.IMHO It looks like something straight out of the 1950s or 60s! Looks like a heating/cooling nightmare.
Looks like a proposal for an exposition hall at the 1964 Worlds Fair. It just needs an "Amtrak" tram running thru it.
I'm kind of sad to hear that granted all I have is I guess a fantasy that the old Penn Station was the greatest station ever. I'm sure thats not true but still :lol: I agree though I dislike the current Penn Station It would be so much better if there was just a window or 2Well, to offer my usual counterpoint, I used the old Penn Station multiple times as a teenager. My opinion is that Pennsylvania Station was a magnificent piece of architecture, but a truly lousy train station. It was cavernous, cold, filthy, and poorly designed for passenger movement. Huge area were useless and deserted in the peak of the day, while other areas were crushed with passengers with no place to sit. The glass roof over what is now the Amtrak concourse leaked like a sieve and was nearly opaque from dirt. The interior was smokey from all the cigarettes with little ventilation to clear the air. It was, in my opinion, a dump: a building you wanted to transit as quickly as possible. In that regard, today's Penn Station is a fitting successor, since it is also a dump that you can't wait to leave.
Actually, I'd say it shows my impression of Florida hospitality, or the total lack thereof, to the T. Florida is a nasty state full of rednecks to the north, and arrogant, over-monied retirees to the south, an incompetent government, and an infrastructure based on the concept that space has no value. I hate Florida, I think it is the worst state in the entire United States, and the only reason I go there is either in transit to a cruise ship, or to see my girlfriends parents.As a major portal for visitors arriving into the state, it hardly exhudes the feeling of Florida hospitality.
As someone who has used the Auto Train on several occasions, both pre-tent and post-tent, I can tell you that it is one heck of an improvement over what used to be there. Which was basically nothing. Assuming that you weren't one of the lucky ones to gget into the small building, you used to have a glass roof over your head in the tent area that let in the sun, and a couple of fans to push around that wonderful hot, humid Florida air.I've only ridden past and never actually visited the current facility. I hadn't realized what a complete and utter crap-shack it is. The tent is a joke, and a lousy one at that. Between the embarrasing condition of the auto-train station and post-apocalyptic ghost-town look of Sanford's neighboring derelict former passenger depot, I imagine arriving passengers might briefly begin to wonder just what they've gotten themselves into. As a major portal for visitors arriving into the state, it hardly exhudes the feeling of Florida hospitality.
AlohaI'm kind of sad to hear that granted all I have is I guess a fantasy that the old Penn Station was the greatest station ever. I'm sure that's not true but still :lol: I agree though I dislike the current Penn Station It would be so much better if there was just a window or 2
Ok, but don't hold back... what do you really think of Florida? Lol...Actually, I'd say it shows my impression of Florida hospitality, or the total lack thereof, to the T. Florida is a nasty state full of rednecks to the north, and arrogant, over-monied retirees to the south, an incompetent government, and an infrastructure based on the concept that space has no value. I hate Florida, I think it is the worst state in the entire United States, and the only reason I go there is either in transit to a cruise ship, or to see my girlfriends parents.As a major portal for visitors arriving into the state, it hardly exhudes the feeling of Florida hospitality.
The current Sanford station is a fitting microcosm of all that is wrong with Florida, and I'd love for it to stay just the way it is if you truly feel that a station should represent the area it serves.
Actually, I'd say it shows my impression of Florida hospitality, or the total lack thereof, to the T. Florida is a nasty state full of rednecks to the north, and arrogant, over-monied retirees to the south, an incompetent government, and an infrastructure based on the concept that space has no value. I hate Florida, I think it is the worst state in the entire United States, and the only reason I go there is either in transit to a cruise ship, or to see my girlfriends parents.As a major portal for visitors arriving into the state, it hardly exhudes the feeling of Florida hospitality.
The current Sanford station is a fitting microcosm of all that is wrong with Florida, and I'd love for it to stay just the way it is if you truly feel that a station should represent the area it serves.
Well, in Florida aren't there quite a few Art Deco buildings? IMHO, I would expect that 'the design people' would have had that in mind... Art Deco is kind a cool. I do like the classical architecture of the older stations, but would that fit in better with the other buildings there? This design just seems to be an odd fit to me. Seems to be cold & a bit sterile. But I'm no expert on this subject.A train station.What would you want it to look like?
Well, in Florida aren't there quite a few Art Deco buildings? IMHO, I would expect that 'the design people' would have had that in mind... Art Deco is kind a cool. I do like the classical architecture of the older stations, but would that fit in better with the other buildings there? This design just seems to be an odd fit to me. Seems to be cold & a bit sterile. But I'm no expert on this subject.A train station.What would you want it to look like?
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