New BHM Station Moving Forward

Amtrak Unlimited Discussion Forum

Help Support Amtrak Unlimited Discussion Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Status
Not open for further replies.
I've set for quite a while just outside of the station waiting on all the tracks to clear on several occasions. It would benefit Amtrak, NS and CSX, seems like a win for all. Surely somebody could come up with the money to fix an ongoing issue while they are building a station. If extending a tunnel costs too much just route passengers and luggage through the tunnel that the street currently uses. That street sees little traffic and could be closed and made into a path to the platform that could be used for baggage carts and people alike. If done right it would also eliminate the need for an elevator.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
There is actually only one hand thrown switch at the north end. (L&N gave Amtrak a cost of $100,000.00 to do this in the late 1970's!) The south end has a hand throw switch for track 2, but the CSX, recently and without Amtrak's knowledge, removed the switch on the north end. Amtrak leases both tracks....

So, the south end is not an issue.

As far as moving to the other side of the track. There are several problems with this. First, there is no room. There are tracks all the way across. Second, Alabam Power has a building directly across the track which is currently being gutted and they have their own plans for that. Further up and down the track, there simply no room to build a platform and it is still above street level and would require 2 elevators to be built.

If you could convince NS to remove one of the "high line" tracks for a platform to be put there, you would still have to build out the tunnel and build a freight elevator. This would be the best solution in the long run. It would still allow direct access to both the NS and CSX. But, the big question is where the millions and millions of $$$ come from?

There is one other solution that has been talked about and, if any change ever happens, this will be done. Trains would pull in/back out from 14th St. This would eliminate the need to use the "new Way" and the 24th St. crossovers. This is where most of the delays are incurred in Birmingham.

One thing that I don't think anyone realizes is that the New Station project only includes the Waiting room and ticket office. It does not address the access to / from the platforms or the platforms themselves. The City of Birmingham has not purchased these areas and will not do any work not on City owned property. There will be some minor work done to mate the new to old buildings, but getting the details of this is what continues to delay the project currently.

Bob
 
Last edited by a moderator:
http://urbancurrent.org/files/2011/08/20101108_railroad-park-design_33.jpg

http://www.magiccitypost.com/images/uploads/railroad-park-concept-map.jpg

Those two pictures illustrate what I was thinking of. Railroad park is already owned by the city and all that should be required is relocating the platform to that side of the track on city property and connecting the station to it. Have ramps and pathways for baggage carts and ADA. Another option would have been to keep the current bus terminal and build a waiting room and ticket office for Amtrak into the park and give greyhound the old Amtrak property.
 
Nice ideas. Nice drawings. Nowhere near enough money to make it happen. "No bucks, no Buck Rogers."
 
Yes, Nice ideas but several problems. No room for a platform at track level. NS would have to abandon use of the high line - NOT going to happen. No access to the CSX for any future trains to be run on CSX. Power switch and signal would have to be put in on the North/East end. And, The City does not own the property you are talking about. The NS refused to sell the City the proper where the Heart of Dixie used to have their junk parked.

A power switch and signals is the best answer. Also, if enough money was available, a different crossover could be put in from the CSX to the NS which would speed the train's movement in/out of the station. However, the net benefit is very small, so I would not look for that to ever happen.
 
OK - actual work started yesterday with the arrival of Taylor+Miree, the contractor for the first contract. While it may not be at the Amtrak Station location, it is part of the project. They are preparing the area between 16th St and 17th Sts. This will eventually be the dedicated parking area for the Intermodal Station. It is part of the location of the former L&N "hole" yard. Once paved, modular trailers will be brought in and used as temporary facilities for the MAX bus transfer facility. Following that, the current building, only 13 years old, will be torn down. In about 3 months work will start on the block where the Amtrak Station is located.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top