More Good News from VIA

Discussion in 'VIA Rail Canada Discussion' started by NS VIA Fan, Apr 4, 2018.

Amtrak Unlimited Discussion Forum

Help Support Amtrak Unlimited Discussion Forum:

  1. Apr 4, 2018 #1

    NS VIA Fan

    NS VIA Fan

    NS VIA Fan

    Conductor

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,271
    A contract has been awarded to Bombardier to rebuild 17 Long-Haul Coaches from the original CPR HEP I Budd Stainless Steel fleet that are used in Economy Class service on trains such as Canadian, Ocean (occasionally) Northern Quebec and the former Skeena and Hudson Bay services. From the news release:

    http://www.viarail.ca/en/about-via-rail/media-room/latest-news/226166/03-april-2018-54-million-contract-awarded-to-bombardier

    "The contract awarded to Bombardier will allow for the stainless steel cars to become fully accessible. The interior layout of the cars was designed in compliance with modern accessibility standards and future requirements that are currently under development in order to provide a superior level of accessibility.

    Each reconfigured car will be equipped with:

    -two wheelchair lifts;

    -two accessible spaces with anchoring devices;

    -announcement display screens, including in the washrooms;

    -an accessible washroom.

    The work will also include the installation of Wi-Fi devices, improved interior design of the cars and mechanical upgrading of the heating system and various electrical components.

    The program is scheduled to be completed in 2020. The 17 renovated cars will be deployed over VIA Rails long-haul routes"

    Nice to see VIA is improving accessibility with the wheelchair lifts built right into the cars. I imagine the installation will be similar to those in the rebuilt 'Prestige' Park Cars where the lifts replaced the steps.

    IMG_20151206_141059.jpg
     
  2. Apr 4, 2018 #2

    Bob Dylan

    Bob Dylan

    Bob Dylan

    Conductor

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    17,836
    Location:
    Austin Texas
    Canada really can do Magic with old Rail Equipment.

    Amtrak should hire their head Mechanical Engineer to train the workers ( and Suits!) in its Maintainence Depots how to get its worn out,Maintainence deferred equipment up to par!.
     
  3. Apr 4, 2018 #3

    jis

    jis

    jis

    Conductor AU Lifetime Supporter Gathering Team Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    23,960
    Location:
    Space Coast, Florida, Area code 3-2-1
    What amazes me is that it will cost more than $3 million per car for this exercise!! $54 million for 17 cars!

    Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum
     
  4. Apr 4, 2018 #4

    keelhauled

    k

    keelhauled

    OBS Chief

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2014
    Messages:
    805
    Location:
    Camorr
    I doubt it is a coincidence that the contract shows up not long after Bombardier threatened layoffs in La Pocatière due to the REM rolling stock contract being awarded to Alstom.
     
  5. Apr 6, 2018 #5

    seat38a

    s

    seat38a

    Conductor

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,818
    Location:
    Orange County California
    Sounds like another bailout / jobs program to me. God forbid Bombardier actually made trains and planes that would keep them going without either the Federal Government or Quebec bailing them out.
     
  6. Apr 7, 2018 #6

    Anderson

    A

    Anderson

    Conductor

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2010
    Messages:
    9,012
    Location:
    Virginia
    At least in partial defense, I think that's in CAD...but that's still $2.25-2.5m/car in USD terms (depending on the exchange rate).
     
  7. Apr 9, 2018 #7

    Lonestar648

    L

    Lonestar648

    Conductor AU Supporter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    2,628
    I was wondering what the cost to build new cars would be, but timing might be the critical factor, rebuilding could get started sooner.
     
  8. Apr 9, 2018 #8

    Trogdor

    Trogdor

    Trogdor

    Conductor

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Messages:
    5,278
    Location:
    Here
    Hopefully Bombardier can rebuild cars better than they can build them.
     
  9. Apr 9, 2018 #9

    jis

    jis

    jis

    Conductor AU Lifetime Supporter Gathering Team Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    23,960
    Location:
    Space Coast, Florida, Area code 3-2-1
    Well, they are inconsistent. They did not do too badly with the Superliner II order.

    I have never figured out who screwed up more on the Acela order, Amtrak or Bombardier.

    Bombardier has also not done too badly with the NJT/MARC MLVs and the ALP-46/46As, ALP45DPs either.

    They did botch the NYCTA order and of course the famous fiasco in Toronto.
     
  10. Apr 10, 2018 #10

    PVD

    P

    PVD

    Conductor

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2015
    Messages:
    3,880
    Location:
    NYC/Queens
    if that's 3 million cdn that would be 2.4 million us ,but that's still a good buck for a rebuild.
     
  11. Apr 14, 2018 #11

    bretton88

    b

    bretton88

    OBS Chief

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2009
    Messages:
    958
    You're forgetting Montreal's new subway car order, which was supposed to be fully completed by now of the 468 cars ordered, about 342 are delivered now. Then there's BART's new trains which started revenue service over a year late. At this point it is risky to trust BBD North America on a transit order.
     

Share This Page



arrow_white