List of meals served on all LD trains

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  1. Feb 20, 2014 #1

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    I thought it would be a good idea to have a list of what meals are served on long distance trains, as this seems to be a popular question. As I don't have the answers to most of these, I am hoping to merge the combined experience of members into a hopefully helpful guide. I will do my best to update this post as content is added. If this can be turned into a wiki thread, that might make more sense.

    I think it makes sense to have this list ony be for meals served assuming you are taking the train end-to-end, and that the train is on time. I am sure that collectively we have been on all of these routes, so please only post if you are sure of the answer

    To add to this list, please post:

    - train

    - direction

    - meals served

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    California Zephyr

    - 5 Westbound: Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch

    Capitol Limited

    - 29 Westbound: Dinner, Breakfast

    - 30 Eastbound: Dinner, Brunch

    Cardinal

    - 51 Westbound: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast

    City of New Orleans

    Coast Starlight

    - 11 Southbound: Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

    - 14 Northbound: Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

    Crescent

    - 19 Southbound: Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner (abbrev.)

    - 20 Northbound: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch

    Empire Builder

    - 7 Westbound: Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast

    - 8 Eastbound: Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch

    Lake Shore Limited

    Silver Meteor

    - 98 Northbound: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast

    Silver Star

    Southwest Chief

    - 3 Westbound: Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast (abbrev.)

    - 4 Eastbound: Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch

    Sunset Limited

    Texas Eagle

    Please feel free to offer suggestions or comments.
     
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    Capital Limited (29) - Westbound - Dinner / Breakfast

    Capital Limited (30) - Eastbound - Dinner / Brunch (Breakfast and short time for lunch)

    California Zephyr (5) - Westbound - Dinner / Breakfast / Lunch / Dinner (to SLC) and I assume Breakfast & Lunch between SLC and EMY.

    Cardinal (51) - Westbound - Breakfast / Lunch / Dinner / Breakfast
     
  3. Feb 20, 2014 #3

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    This can be quickly researched by simply going to the Amtrak site, pulling up the individual routes and studying the Menus there. They are also all batched under Meals and Dining in the Riders Guide.
     
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    Coast Starlight. Since southbound train 11 and northbound train 14 both leave their origins mid-morning and arrive at their destination ca. 36 hours later, both trains have similar meal schedules.

    Day 1: Lunch, Dinner

    Day 2: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
     
  5. Feb 20, 2014 #5

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    Southwest Chief (3) Westbound - Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast (abbreviated, usually from 5:30/6:00 - 7:00).

    Southwest Chief (4) Eastbound - Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch
     
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    The OP was not asking about the menus... rather what meals are served on what trains. For example.. the City of New Orleans does not serve Lunch departing New Orleans.. even though it departs during "lunch time" (theoretically the train could board early for sleeping car passengers to enjoy lunch before and during departure the same way the City serves a quick dinner departing Chicago Southbound).

    It's a pretty legit question.
     
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    Silver Meteor NB serves full Breakfast shortly after departing Miami.

    Miami - NYP is Breakfast - Lunch - Dinner - Breakfast

    Crescent NB serves full Breakfast shortly departing New Orleans.

    NOL - NYP - is Breakfast - Lunch - Dinner - Breakfast - Lunch

    Crescent SB

    NYP - NOL - Dinner (1 early seating before DC at 4:30 I think?) - Breakfast - Lunch - Abbreviated Dinner before arrival in NOL.
     
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    EB #8, Dinner, Brkfst, Lunch, Dinner, Brkfst & Lunch

    EB #7, Dinner, Brkfst, Lunch, Dinner, Brkfst
     
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    To make it easier, the normal hours for meals are

    Breakfast - 6:30-9 am

    Lunch - 11:30 am to 2 or 3 pm

    Dinner - 5 or 5:30 until last seating usually 8 or 9 pm

    If you are on the train at these times, meals are served.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing - considering that most people don't ride endpoint to endpoint, and that delays of several hours can greatly impact a train's meal schedule, knowing the meal times is far more useful.

    I'd add one caveat to that (especially since there are several threads going about dining times)- most trains only serve a meal when the train is scheduled to travel during the entire meal period. So, if lunch is generally from 11:30 am to 2:00 pm, you're generally not going to get lunch on a train that either arrives or departs at noon.
     
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    Yes. I think this is where most new travelers get confused. When I rode the TE a couple of months ago, a lady was very upset that they weren't serving lunch out of Chicago. She hadn't eaten in anticipation of eating on the train and didn't want to "waste" money on the cafe car, so she was quite hungry by the time dinner came.
     
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    That's is the issue, something like the first meal served will be...and last meal served is like the No Dinner Service departing Chicago note in the Lake Shore's timetable would be useful.

    All I can think of is in the signs on the convenience store in the Emeryville Station saying "By Breakfast Here" the first meal served on the Zephyr is lunch. The train does depart at 9:10am, just after the 6:00 to 9:00am window. It's less than an hour after the Meteor that departs at 9:10.

    Finally the dinner time arrivals, City of New Orleans is at 7:32pm that I know (from reading this forum has a dinner service) vs. the New York half of the Lake Shore at 6:35pm, still less than an hour different.

    The Star arrives at 6:05pm into Miami the Meteor at 6:55pm, do either of these get meal service? (I assume the answer is no for both trains, I haven't ridden these)
     
  13. Feb 20, 2014 #13
    LSL 448 to Boston eastbound: Breakfast, Lunch, Boxed Dinner

    LSL 48 to New York eastbound: Breakfast, Lunch, NO DINNER and the Cafe Car closes at Albany. This is an undesirable and unpleasant exception to Amtrak's usual meal hours.

    Anyone know the full meal list for the LSL westbound for sure? For various reasons I've never started my trip far enough east to know.
     
  14. Feb 20, 2014 #14
    I think a list of the standard meals offered is actually necessary in addition to the "standard hours", due to things like trains scheduled to arrive halfway through dinner or breakfast hours -- some serve, some don't. The situation where the cafe closes at Albany is a particularly nasty "gotcha" on the LSL.
     
  15. Feb 20, 2014 #15
    Hmm, I can help a little more.

    California Zephyr eastbound: Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch.

    (Yes, last I checked they served lunch entering Chicago. On early arrival it can get truncated, but it's still a "full" lunch rather than an abbreviated one, since I guess early arrival is uncommon.)

    Also worth noting: the CZ is serving breakfast westbound and dinner eastbound *during* the Denver station stop, but you will probably be unable to get either if you're getting on the train at Denver. Passengers getting on in Denver are all served *after* all passengers who were already on the train, so it's quite easy to find that all the late sittings are already taken if you're getting on at Denver.

    Also worth noting: most cafe cars close half an hour to an hour before arrival at the terminating station, with the eastbound LSL's early cafe car closure being an unpleasant exception.
     
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    Dinner is served out of NYP. You get breakfast before arriving in CHI, but you're in before lunch (assuming you're on time).
     
  17. Feb 20, 2014 #17
    Thanks. Anyone know the scheme out of Boston? I think it's a boxed dinner (no lunch), but I'm not sure since I haven't done it...
     
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    Is there any logical reason that Amtrak does not include this information on their published schedules?
     
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    No.
     
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    Hmm, looks like I can't update my OP any more times. Anyone know a fix?
     
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    If I were to be cynical, I would suggest that the people preparing the published schedules do not actually have this information. Large organizations often have a "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" problem.
     
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    Lunch is served on the westbound Lake Shore from Boston. Dinner for the passengers on 449 is served after departing from Albany.
     
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    Well, Amtrak does have this on the LSL schedule:

    "Dining: Full meal service between New York and Chicago. Not available between Albany and Boston; Sleeping car passengers will receive complimentary hot Lounge car meal service.

    Lounge: Sandwiches, snacks and beverages. (Note—Combined Diner/ Lounge provides food and beverage service between New York and Albany)."

    Does that not cover it?
     
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    And now something completely different: Via Rail's Canadian (#2) eastbound from Vancouver to Toronto. No dinner departing Vancouver, but a champagne reception in the end-of-train dome observation car. Then breakfast, lunch, dinner, continental breakfast, brunch, dinner, breakfast, lunch, dinner, breakfast. On my train last week, 2(14), we received another lunch from a shortened menu, due to 8-hr late arrival into Toronto.

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