Eureka, California to Vancouver, Washington: a roundabout journey

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  1. Jul 26, 2019 #1

    Matthew H Fish

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    Hello All!

    This Monday, I took an Amtrak trip from Eureka, California to Vancouver, Washington. This was a trip for practical purposes, although of course, I did get to see some great scenery! As some of you might know, but most of you don't, Eureka, California is a small town on the North California coast, and accessing it by any type of transit is difficult.

    To go north from Eureka, I first had to go south. About 300 miles south, to Martinez, California (East Bay), and then get the Coast Starlight going north. At 10 AM, I boarded an Amtrak thruway bus outside the Eureka Denny's. The stop was just the normal Eureka city bus stop, and it was only when a few other people showed up that I knew I was in the right place. I got on the bus with little fanfare (they didn't check my ticket, just asked my name), and then started heading south. I was pretty tired, so I dozed off a little, but since it was a six or seven hour bus ride to Martinez, I had plenty of time to see 101. The bus had maybe a dozen people on it, maybe more as we got more towards Santa Rosa. The bus driver was very nice and friendly. Unlike Greyhound bus riders, who are sure to tell you that you are on your own when you get off at a rest stop, he took rolecall to make sure we were all there. There was, of course, some interesting terrain to see along the way. There was a lot of traffic jams in the Marin and Solano County areas, but we still got to Martinez an hour early.

    Martinez was the low point of the trip. There was a six hour wait between getting in, and the Coast Starlight leaving. Which, it would turn out, would be extended by an hour because the Coast Starlight was late. Martinez was nice enough, there is a nice harbor park next to the station. But I was pretty tired, and had my luggage, so I didn't really want to walk around town. Outside the station, a woman asked me if I knew where I could find crystal meth. So, I also didn't feel like spending a lot of time in the environs of the station. The station staff weren't also particularly helpful, and the station didn't have wireless. I think in this day and age, internet access should be a natural thing for travellers. It costs virtually nothing and is important when we are travelling. But I would be out of signal until Portland.

    Once the train boarded, around midnight, the rest of the trip was clear sailing. There was a tag for the seat next to mine, but there was no one sleeping there, so I moved over to the window seat, spread out, and went to sleep, waking up the next day sometime around 7 AM. around Mount Shasta. I got pictures of Shasta and Lassen. Two things happened that morning: the toilets went out of order in our car, and someone was smoking (probably electronically) cannabis. There was a man whose attire bragging about his marijuana consumption made him an obvious suspect, and I think that at one of the stops, the conductor had "a talk" about it with him, but I never saw exactly what happened.

    The route over the Cascades in Oregon is beautiful, and the Willamette Valley is very nostalgic for me, because I grew up there. I met some people in the lounge and talked to my seat mate, so everything about that part of the trip was good. I got wireless in Portland so I could alert my host in Vancouver to my arrival and check my e-Mail. We were an hour late into Portland, but left early, so I got to Vancouver and hopped off.

    That is the basic narrative of my trip...feel free to ask questions.

    As to why we had to go south from Eureka, I will put that in a follow-up comment, because it is a story in itself.
    Also, pictures:

    (Somewhere south of Garberville)
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    (Ukiah Amtrak stop)
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    (Martinez Amtrak/Intermodal)
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    (Mount Shasta, I believe)
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    (Possibly Medicine Lake Volcano?)
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    (Klamath Falls Amtrak:)
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    (Somewhere in the Cascades)
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  2. Jul 26, 2019 #2

    Matthew H Fish

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    So why can't I go east or north from Eureka?

    From Eureka, California, to Redding, California is less than 100 linear miles. It is 147 miles, and 3 hours, by road. This seems to be doable. But it is a rough road, and there aren't that many populated towns along the way. There is public transit from Eureka to Redding, but it involves three different buses, and waiting in two different small towns along the way.

    If you go north to Crescent City, 100 miles north of Eureka, there is an Amtrak bus going east, that ends up in Klamath Falls. The problem is, it leaves first thing in the morning, so you can't get there by public transit in time to catch it. You would actually have to have two hotel stays, in Crescent City and Klamath Falls, in order to do that. So that doesn't work.

    And if you go another 200 miles north, to Coos Bay, Oregon, itself a pretty difficult process, you can find an Amtrak bus going east, but once again one that would involve waiting overnight in Coos Bay.


    This is one of those problems that looks obvious on a map, until you actually see the terrain, and see how dispersed the population is. Between Santa Rosa, California and Newport, Oregon (where the "populated" part of the Oregon Coast begins), there is 500 miles of windy road without a population center bigger than around 50,000 people.

    Also, I think state politics take a role: while it might make more sense to have a route north from Eureka, up to Crescent City, and across to Medford-Klamath Falls, California subsidizes Amtrak in California, and they might not want to pay for a route that would up mostly serving Oregon.
     
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    Nice photos! Thanks for sharing them.

    On the issue of the passenger apparently vaping marijuana, I have to say, what an idiot! With edible cannabis products so readily available at local pot shops, there's just no excuse for sneaking around smoking or vaping the stuff in public.
     
  4. Jul 26, 2019 #4

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    Yeah, as a person who has no objections to cannabis use, I still think people should be able to forego it for a few hours in a public place. I think this guy was kind of a troublemaker. But the entire conflict still seemed pretty cute to me.
     
  5. Jul 27, 2019 #5

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    Nice report!! I remember taking a family vacation, in 1971 or '72 (don't remember which year) and we took the road between Eureka and Redding. I remember it as being narrow and winding.
     
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    At one time, Greyhound Lines ran 4 thru trips a day between San Francisco and Portland over US101, serving that area...alas, now there none.
    Another one of those, "you can't get there from here" scenario's, unfortunately...
     
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  7. Jul 27, 2019 #7

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    Lot of Canibus grown north of Santa Rosa. Used to be the one of the major money making endeavors. Not surprised to see someone wearing a I LIKE WEED tee shirt. Frustrating to see someone burning a joint or vaping on a train. Besides all that, sounds like you had a good trip, took some nice photos and filled us in on the Geography of Northern California. I also like that Willimette Valley.
     
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  8. Jul 29, 2019 #8

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    I took one of those Highway 101 Greyhound trips, in 1999, from Corvallis to San Francisco. That was my first trip on the coast south of Newport, Oregon, I believe. I remember it being pretty overwhelmingly large, seeing so many new things. I also realized later that I remembered some things incorrectly: in my memory, Brookings, Oregon and Crescent City, California, were right next to each other, but when I went back later, they are more than 20 miles apart.

    When Greyhound ended service to many Oregon locations, the Oregon DOT replaced it with the Oregon POINT service, or other replacement services.
     
  9. Jul 29, 2019 #9

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    I live in the wilds of Eastern Oregon, so I love the Oregon POINT bust services. But you are right, they do not make some of the obvious connections to other services. I have a friend in the Arcata area who regularly takes that AmBus to Martinez to initiate his cross-country Amtrak journeys (yes, even on the northbound Coast Starlight, LOL).

    Thanks for your trip report.
     

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