A bit of a stupid question regarding Student Discounts

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On the Amtrak website, I saw that students 13 - 17 are now eligible for the student discount. Since the only requirement was a student ID card (and she has one), I booked the trip for myself and my 13 year old. Now we are packed and ready to go except she can't find the darn card! Now we are leaving in the am and I have no idea what to do. Do you think I can bring a report card and her schedule for the new school year?
 
The chances of being checked for student ID are low. If she's 13, I doubt that they'll dispute that she's a student. I suppose it might be possible if you're talking a 24 year old grad student.

I've booked AAA rates before and have never been checked for my membership card.
 
On the Amtrak website, I saw that students 13 - 17 are now eligible for the student discount. Since the only requirement was a student ID card (and she has one), I booked the trip for myself and my 13 year old. Now we are packed and ready to go except she can't find the darn card! Now we are leaving in the am and I have no idea what to do. Do you think I can bring a report card and her schedule for the new school year?
I agree with BCL. I've used the AAA discount for years, and have never been asked for my card. Since Amtrak has come out with the updated student discount, I've used it plenty and also was never asked.
 
I'd just point out for anyone reading this and wondering about the student discount, it's actually for students 13-25. I didn't take Amtrak back then, but as a 23 year old grad student I took advantage of a few student discounts where I just needed to whip out my student ID.

https://www.amtrak.com/student

Student savings just got better. Now, students age 13 - 25 with a valid student ID are eligible for 15% off the lowest Value or Flexible Fare when you book your travel at least 3 days in advance.

The discount type will typically be printed on the paper ticket (printed by Amtrak or an emailed PDF), although it doesn't show up on the Amtrak app or Apple Wallet passes. It would be up to a conductor to check, and I'm not thinking that it's a big concern. Even if they asked and one could produce a student ID, exactly what would they do?
 
I've heard about the student discount, when Amtrak sent me an email informing me about this new "discount" (probably due to my age). I would rather use my NARP discount than this new student discount, as the former allows you to book over the phone with the agent, whereas the latter is online-only (according to what I read on the fine print). Even better is when there's a saver fare the day I am riding on the train (which are generally hard to get as they sell out rather quickly). As for checking IDs and member cards, I don't think that conductors see it that often. Although agents may occasionally ask for my NARP membership number, I have never been asked to show my NARP membership card onboard trains. However, it is a good idea to carry it with you.
 
I would like to know why they the cut-off age for student discount is 25.

I have two family members who are 27 and 29 who have just started in PhD programs. Most of the "kids" in their doctoral studies are also in the same age group. It's a shame that Amtrak doesn't give these guys the benefit of student discounts. :)
 
I would like to know why they the cut-off age for student discount is 25.

I have two family members who are 27 and 29 who have just started in PhD programs. Most of the "kids" in their doctoral studies are also in the same age group. It's a shame that Amtrak doesn't give these guys the benefit of student discounts. :)
Look at the phrases you used... PhD and Doctoral students... You answered why the program cuts off at 25.. Doctors make 6 figures easily. Which helps pay off those loans rather quickly.
 
I would like to know why they the cut-off age for student discount is 25.

I have two family members who are 27 and 29 who have just started in PhD programs. Most of the "kids" in their doctoral studies are also in the same age group. It's a shame that Amtrak doesn't give these guys the benefit of student discounts. :)
Very few places do, as it's often based on age + student status, not solely the student status. Now that I think about it....there were some places I couldn't get a discount when I was 23/24, and some that didn't care about age. But those places were the exception, not the rule.
 
Based on Toni's reasoning, people could be studying for various degrees until they're eligible for senior discounts! I mean you got to stop at some point.
 
Even back when the Student discount was via the Student Advantage card, I was never asked to show my card on the train. The only time I was asked to show my card was when I was asking for a printed ticket at the NYP ticket windows. That being said, I haven't tried booking with the new Student discount since the Visit Vermont 20% discount is a touch better when it's available.
 
Based on Toni's reasoning, people could be studying for various degrees until they're eligible for senior discounts! I mean you got to stop at some point.
I want the discounts to stack.

Student discount + senior discount + child discount(for the child in me) + AAA discount(member for 20 years)

oh... let's just elect Bernie next time and make Amtrak a socialist operation so EVERYBODY rides free! :D :D :D
 
I would like to know why they the cut-off age for student discount is 25.

I have two family members who are 27 and 29 who have just started in PhD programs. Most of the "kids" in their doctoral studies are also in the same age group. It's a shame that Amtrak doesn't give these guys the benefit of student discounts. :)
It's arbitrary of course. However, 25 is the cutoff point for when a dependent student child can still be on a parent's health insurance.
 
I would like to know why they the cut-off age for student discount is 25.

I have two family members who are 27 and 29 who have just started in PhD programs. Most of the "kids" in their doctoral studies are also in the same age group. It's a shame that Amtrak doesn't give these guys the benefit of student discounts. :)
It's arbitrary of course. However, 25 is the cutoff point for when a dependent student child can still be on a parent's health insurance.
That's where my thoughts went too. 25 tends to be the cutoff for a person being still a legal dependent of their parent's(s'), even if they are still living in your basement.

25 also seems to be cutoff for sky-high car insurance rates, and car rentals, though neither has any bearing on train travel.
 
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Meanwhile, I couldn't get financial aid for school when I was 20, even though I was living on my own and had a full-time job. The government considered me "dependent", even though I was completely independent from my parents. (This was long before health insurance companies let you stay on until you were 25, and I had my own anyway.)

I had to wait until I was 25 before I could go back to school. The cutoff for "dependency" was 24, but my birthday fell nine days after the eligibility date.
 
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Meanwhile, I couldn't get financial aid for school when I was 20, even though I was living on my own and had a full-time job. The government considered me "dependent", even though I was completely independent from my parents.

I had to wait until I was 25 before I could go back to school. The cutoff was 24, but my birthday fell nine days after the eligibility date.
It was several years ago, but I remember a family member's friend applying and receiving financial aid. She was also 20 or 21 and was able to be considered as independent because her attorney filed minor emancipation for her at age 17. (which legally separated her from her parents, at least in the financial sense) Of course, laws governing minor emancipation vary from state to state....
 
I would like to know why they the cut-off age for student discount is 25.

I have two family members who are 27 and 29 who have just started in PhD programs. Most of the "kids" in their doctoral studies are also in the same age group. It's a shame that Amtrak doesn't give these guys the benefit of student discounts. :)
It's arbitrary of course. However, 25 is the cutoff point for when a dependent student child can still be on a parent's health insurance.
That's where my thoughts went too. 25 tends to be the cutoff for a person being still a legal dependent of their parent's(s'), even if they are still living in your basement.

25 also seems to be cutoff for sky-high car insurance rates, and car rentals, though neither has any bearing on train travel.
I guess that's a little bit different. 25 is the upper limit, as in before the 26th birthday. And one would need to be a student and that age sometime in that calendar year to be considered a student dependent for tax purposes.

Car rentals don't require a young driver fee starting on the 25th birthday. Of course this is still pretty arbitrary, but there's nothing particularly magic about these numbers other than someone decided on them.
 
The chances of being checked for student ID are low. If she's 13, I doubt that they'll dispute that she's a student. I suppose it might be possible if you're talking a 24 year old grad student.

I've booked AAA rates before and have never been checked for my membership card.
Once, about 15 years ago, while checking into a hotel, I was asked for my AAA card.
 
Meanwhile, I couldn't get financial aid for school when I was 20, even though I was living on my own and had a full-time job. The government considered me "dependent", even though I was completely independent from my parents.

I had to wait until I was 25 before I could go back to school. The cutoff was 24, but my birthday fell nine days after the eligibility date.
It was several years ago, but I remember a family member's friend applying and receiving financial aid. She was also 20 or 21 and was able to be considered as independent because her attorney filed minor emancipation for her at age 17. (which legally separated her from her parents, at least in the financial sense) Of course, laws governing minor emancipation vary from state to state....
I think that this is for student loans and student grants, which are based on income. Years ago, "wealthy" parents would set up their 18 yo with their own apartment for like $150 a month, and claim they are financially independent. So, their loans and grants were based exclusively on the kid's near-zero income. To curb this abuse, I believe they passed laws defining a child to be a dependent of their parents up to 24 (or 25?) year old for the purpose of school loans and grants.
 
Many student ID cards don't have expiration dates printed on them. I suspect this is to avoid people getting a "student" discount permanently.
 
Meanwhile, I couldn't get financial aid for school when I was 20, even though I was living on my own and had a full-time job. The government considered me "dependent", even though I was completely independent from my parents. (This was long before health insurance companies let you stay on until you were 25, and I had my own anyway.)

I had to wait until I was 25 before I could go back to school. The cutoff for "dependency" was 24, but my birthday fell nine days after the eligibility date.
I started college when I was 19, and the government considered me "independent" as I was living away from my parents. To be considered as an independent, all that mattered was the fact that I was estranged from my father (almost no contact), and my mother was non-citizen living outside of the US (which means no SSN for her). It wasn't easy to get myself considered as an "independent" student, as I had to deal with paperwork and compose a statement on my basis of justification to be considered independent, while another one recognized me as an independent. The two others did not recognize me as an independent, and I did not bother to contest. I no longer have to wait until 24 to be considered independent. Had it not been for this special circumstance, I would never have been considered independent during my undergrad year (my 24th birthday falls about a month after the cutoff date).
 
Based on Toni's reasoning, people could be studying for various degrees until they're eligible for senior discounts! I mean you got to stop at some point.
That's true. When I was working on my doctorate, I was a full time Federal employee with a GS12 salary. While I would have appreciated any discount I could get, it wasn't like I needed one due to student poverty.

Of course, I'm still fully employed, but I do qualify for the Senior discount, at least for Amtrak and the National parks. I've never been asked for my ID on the train on Amtrak, even though I look no older than I did before I turned 62, but the national park people always check my ID along with my senior pass.
 
Based on Toni's reasoning, people could be studying for various degrees until they're eligible for senior discounts! I mean you got to stop at some point.
That's true. When I was working on my doctorate, I was a full time Federal employee with a GS12 salary. While I would have appreciated any discount I could get, it wasn't like I needed one due to student poverty.Of course, I'm still fully employed, but I do qualify for the Senior discount, at least for Amtrak and the National parks. I've never been asked for my ID on the train on Amtrak, even though I look no older than I did before I turned 62, but the national park people always check my ID along with my senior pass.
The "national park" deal is actually more expansive. It's not solely a discount, but a $10 lifetime pass to almost any federal recreation area, including NPS, US Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, Army Corps of Engineers, and Bureau of Reclamation. My parents even have an older version that lists the Tennessee Valley Authority, which I understands has recreational fee areas at reservoirs as well as campgrounds and boat launches where one can get a 50% discount. My mom was able to get the 50% discount on a cave tour once.
 
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