CSXfoamer1997
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The Canadian took the Canadian Mountain Passes route up until 1991. Why was it rerouted from the CMP route?
The Canadian Mountain Passes, which include Rogers Pass and Kicking Horse Pass.Which pass again? They rerouted it to serve essential services communities along the CN route when the other transcontinental train was canceled on that route.
I referred to them as Canadian Mountain Passes after one of the Train Simulator routes.I have never heart the term Canadian Mountain Passes as a proper name reference to Kicking Horse and Rogers Passes. Yellowhead Pass is as Canadian as the other two. They are all Canadian mountain passes.
There are a lot of political reasons it was re-routed, and it all boiled down to savings, as the 1990 retrenchment was a major downsize. One of the main ones was CN was still a government corporation at that time, and I think there were some savings to be had and it was easier. I think there were some personnel issues, too. They were still running with railroad operating crews (including conductors at that time), and I dimly recall that having something to do with it. CP was always privately owned.
Arguably the CN route was more remote, but the CP route had its share of remote, too. And I think it is telling that the Canadian is not funded as a remote service, unlike the Churchill train.
Well, nobody else does.I referred to them as Canadian Mountain Passes after one of the Train Simulator routes.I have never heart the term Canadian Mountain Passes as a proper name reference to Kicking Horse and Rogers Passes. Yellowhead Pass is as Canadian as the other two. They are all Canadian mountain passes.
There are a lot of political reasons it was re-routed, and it all boiled down to savings, as the 1990 retrenchment was a major downsize. One of the main ones was CN was still a government corporation at that time, and I think there were some savings to be had and it was easier. I think there were some personnel issues, too. They were still running with railroad operating crews (including conductors at that time), and I dimly recall that having something to do with it. CP was always privately owned.
Arguably the CN route was more remote, but the CP route had its share of remote, too. And I think it is telling that the Canadian is not funded as a remote service, unlike the Churchill train.
Tell me about it!C'moc guys! Let's give him a break. He used a term that he is familiar with and some of us explained what the real railroad/geographical term is for the same thing. We don't have to bully him about that, do we?
If we expect to welcome the younger generation into our folds of rail enthusiasts we should be willing to understand where they are coming from and make at least minor accommodations.
Yes, I should have mentioned that! Reported on trainorders by a regular Canadian poster. It's also called the "Prestige Park Car" on the VIA website. To further clarify, there is SOME access to Sleeper Plus passengers, but the times are scheduled.Source? I don't recall hearing this elsewhere, and last year during peak season the park car was open to all.
Now posted on VIAs web site;Source? I don't recall hearing this elsewhere, and last year during peak season the park car was open to all.
And here it is......There's always the Ocean's Park Car......
Doesn't this apply to both Companies?Coast-to-Coast Amtrak is getting more appealing by the year in comparison to VIA, just with the constant price increases and service reductions from VIA.
With the new prices, it's not as much of a great deal for people on a somewhat tighter budget like me, especially with no off-peak prices - a cabin for one is nearly 1.7k USD when discounted now. Don't know what sale prices are like - is there still half off sales?Doesn't this apply to both Companies?Coast-to-Coast Amtrak is getting more appealing by the year in comparison to VIA, just with the constant price increases and service reductions from VIA.
And the Canadian and the Ocean still have better equipment, excellent service and by far better food!
If you go in the Winter the Canadian is actually a great deal compared to Amtrak! And the new Liberal Government seems to be willing to better fund VIA than the Tories were, just the opposite of the situation with Amtrak! YMMV
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