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Hi Folks,

My laptop has been playing up since I got to India, seems ok again now, so I have altered my "blog" and tried to put it all in one place. If you try this link it should take you to my blog and pics.

http://www.indiamike.com/india/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=9707

I hope to just update the one page as I move from place to place, so check back with the same link from time to time.

Thanks,

Ed. (AKA Old and Rambling )
 
Hello Ed

Will you maybe at the end of your travels give details of how you pre booked the rail tickets and hotels. You mentioned you have travelled to India before, is it changing fast over the years or still about the same?
 
Hi V V,

My first visit was way back in 1983, and India has changed a lot since then. I visited again in 2009, and 2011, so changes since the recent trips are not so noticable.

In the 1980's India was sort of socialist, isolationist, and trying to stop multi nationals from operating here, and so grow their own industries.

Much was re-cyced, from old car tyres made into sandals to tin cans flattened and used as roof tiles. There is a lot of re-cycling going on still, but it seems less a way of life, and more a living for the very poor.

Mr. Modi, the prime minister, is currently trying to modernise and invite foreign firms into India, so that is a big change too.

I wrote in my notebook today: Funny that no matter how mean the bamboo and plastic sheet shacks look, a large number have satelite dishes on the roof. Mobile phones are commonplace now. I think another change is that India is looking to America much more than the UK nowadays, although they are tying up with Japan too for rail projects.

The unfortunate and very noticable cost to the environment of "modernisation" is the huge amount of trash, plastic mostly, that is just dumped everywhere...

Booking trains is a breeze, once you get over the hurdles... The man in seat 61 gives a good guide to getting registered with Indian railways... Hotels are just booked from Trip advisor recommendations, mostly.

Just arrived in Jaisalmer, Rajasthan this afternoon.

Cheers for now,

Ed :cool:
 
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Love your photos and in particular the small girl on the home-made tightrope and the white bullock pulling a cart in traffic, more power to you.
 
Hi Folks,

My laptop has been playing up since I got to India, seems ok again now, so I have altered my "blog" and tried to put it all in one place. If you try this link it should take you to my blog and pics.

http://www.indiamike.com/india/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=9707

I hope to just update the one page as I move from place to place, so check back with the same link from time to time.

Thanks,

Ed. (AKA Old and Rambling )
Thanks; I had a quick look at the blog now I'm going back to read it in detail. I'm pleased to see you use IndiaMike; their forum was very helpful when I planned my previous visits to India (Golden Triangle, Kerala) but I didn't use rail those times.

Do you have any tips for planning and booking rail in India? I'm planning a brief visit to Tamil Nadu next year and am likely to use the trains between Tiruchirappalli, Puducherry and Chennai. I am likely to be using 1st A/C, not sleeper. Is it wise to book in advance via the web or just turn up at the station? If the web, do you recommend any specific web-sites?

PS I already read seat61, the ICRTC site and http://www.indianrail.gov.in
 
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I plotted your train rides on google maps as I read the blog. Wow! Was there a particular reason for the route you chose and the length of the journeys?

PS How do I make the pic smaller?

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Hi,

Thanks again for the feedback and comments.

Lonely Planet is still used today, but I think with the internet and mobile phones and websites such as India Mike, folk are moving to electronic media for current advice and recommendations.

We used L.P. on our first trip, but found we were on a lemming path of western tourists... Once we just got off the trains and busses anywhere we fancied, it felt better. (Nowadays I am on the Trip Advisor lemming path instead !)

Indian Trains...

Your best bet is to book as far in advance as you can, Indian trains can get sold out within hours of booking opening. Advance booking opens for most reservable trains 120 days in advance. There is limited availability for AC1st class, and most tourists find AC2 acceptable. (First Class non A/C is almost gone from the network.)

The thing is that you need to register with both Indian Railways site and Cleartrip site first. Cleartrip are agents that accept foreign credit cards... On Indian Railways site you can only pay if you have an American Express credit card... It is something to do with security of card payments...

So, in order to register at these sites you need an Indian mobile phone number... bit tricky eh?

There is a way around this, and this is where you need to follow the instructions on Cleartrip and/or seat 61 and/or India Mike.

Broadly speaking, you have to email a scan (I sent a jpeg photo) of your passport to prove you are a foreigner.

I tried a few years back and it would not work for me, but made a fresh attempt this year and it seemed the system works better, or maybe I was just lucky !

I booked all the trains on cleartrip, print out ticket at home, all sorted. Even get old folks discount !

Unreserved train coaches are mostly very crowded and will only suit the most adventurous of tourist spirits... Having said that, I anticipate my next train trip here to bein unreserved, but only a six hour ride to Bikaner.

As to my routes... I like train rides, so that is why I zig zag around at times, to pass through different areas as well as reach final destinations. The map you show is slightly wrong, in that the first journey from Trivandrum to Delhi follows the coast all the way to near Mumbai, before heading to Delhi. After here, Jaisalmer, I go nearby to Bikaner, before swooping down to Chennai, then back across to Goa. Goa back to Delhi .Delhi to Kolkata, Kolkata to Kalka and Shimla. That will make your map look even more "interesting" . After that I still have a month to play with !

If you are going next autumn you can take your time, if you are thinking January/Feb 2016 you need to get booking...

Let me know if I have missed anything you asked about?

PS One slight issue with AC1 class is that local Indian VIP's Politicians, etc, get priority in this class... so you may get "bumped off the train" at the last minute. Not all trains have AC1, but many more have AC2.

One good site to play around on, is India Rail Info, shows a wealth of information with timetables, route maps, etc, it is an enthusiasts site, you cannot book through them, although you can check how many seats are available on any train/date within the 120 days advance window. Beware also that many trains do not run every day... all this is shown too on India Rail Info.

Ed :cool:
 
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Thanks very much for the detailed advice Ed; heading off to do more research into the sites and systems you mentioned. I have plenty of time; I will be there for a week in mid June.

The index on the right side-bar of the link in my sig will take you to my own Indian trip reports for comparisons :)
 
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