printman2000
Engineer
Are the cars that say Surfliner and the ones that say Amtrak California basically the same equipment? Just different paint?
The California car cafe setup is vastly better than the Surfliners. Can't go downstairs though; food preparation and crew area. Chuljin is quite right about the seating. In some ways it's similar to the CCC/Diner Lite, and appropriate for day runs, as on the San Joaquins. You wouldn't want one as a PPC replacement on the Coast Starlight, though.The cafe cars are vastly different, with (IMHO) the CA car being better: In the Surfliners, the CoachCafe has an upper level full of seats arranged identical to the Coach cars, and the cafe a rather small affair on the lower level with 11 seats: 2 4-seaters, a 2-seater, and a 1-seater. I neglected to see what's downstairs in a California Cafe car, but the whole upper level is devoted to the cafe and its very inviting seating, with all manner of various seats that actually make one want to stay there.
The California car cafe setup is vastly better than the Surfliners. Can't go downstairs though; food preparation and crew area. Chuljin is quite right about the seating. In some ways it's similar to the CCC/Diner Lite, and appropriate for day runs, as on the San Joaquins. You wouldn't want one as a PPC replacement on the Coast Starlight, though.The cafe cars are vastly different, with (IMHO) the CA car being better: In the Surfliners, the CoachCafe has an upper level full of seats arranged identical to the Coach cars, and the cafe a rather small affair on the lower level with 11 seats: 2 4-seaters, a 2-seater, and a 1-seater. I neglected to see what's downstairs in a California Cafe car, but the whole upper level is devoted to the cafe and its very inviting seating, with all manner of various seats that actually make one want to stay there.
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