McCain's wife might know, if she's hands on and tracks sales closely. She's a major beer distributor. Don't know that her distributorship is an Amtrak contractor, but if she's aware of competitors she'd know.
so passengers who purchased first class tickets may be denied a ppc because a "private party" has one????? :angry: i thought amtrak had five ppcs.
Sadly, I suspect this is another instance of an Amtrak crew member spreading incorrect information. It happens often, and certainly the bit about President Bush personally saying something specifically about the PPCs is incorrect.
But AlanB has given detailed information about all five cars within the past six months as they cycle through Beech Grove, I think, which is a pretty solid indicator that Amtrak owns and operates all five cars. Apologies to Amtrak train crew, but I trust AlanB's information more than theirs.
All five are currently in service on the Starlight.
if all 5 are currently in service and recently refurbished why are so many people getting cccs and sightseer lounges?
"so many" are the many who have posted on this board about no ppc on their trip multiplied by the people who don't post on this board and have had no ppc) on the relaunched cs. as agressively as amtrak has marketed the ppc for the relaunch they have had a lot of runs without one. if they have 5 refurbished cars why is this happening?
Anything to bash Bush. I've met people that when presented with clear facts about something, will still try to find the negative side of Bush on the topic. I remember this taxi ride up in Illinois... I never heard so much bunk and total outright fabrication spewed by someone. Yet I try to correct him and I'm all of a sudden a Bush fanatic. No, I'm just a fanatic for the truth buddy.
Hasty refurbishment, leading to faulty plumbing or wiring or climate control or something dumb like that causing frequent bad-orders? No excuse for that, given how much extra time they had for the refurbishment on account of the mudslide delaying the relaunch by several months! But ... I can see this as the answer, anyhow.
It's also interesting to observe that they are running a CCC in place of the PPC when they're short a PPC. That means they've got a CCC permanently based on the west-coast, nowhere near where it would regularly run (on the Eagle and City). What's up with that? Did they make so many CCC's that they can just spare one to have it sit in LAX full-time (and not even be available in case it's needed as a backup for the Eagle or City)? Does that imply they made several more than they intend to actually use? Lots of questions here....
i have read of a man in charge of the cs named "brian" 10 or so years back. i have read that he was wonderfully customer oriented (how about that). did it cost more to run things as brian did? what happened to him? what was his record with the ppcs?
interesting. why aren't they using a talgo set? i know they were using superliner equipment to vancouver, bc but i thought that was just during a talgo refurbish. are they using a superliner set for an added run? i really like the talgo bistro car
The Talgo refurbishments are still on going and therefore Superliner's still ply the SEA - VAC route.
I seem to recall reading that he was promoted several years ago.
Amtrak is being very closed mouthed about their plans for the CCC's, most likely because they know that there will be howls of protest once they do tell us what's going on. However, I can tell you that the original plan called for 10 Superliner I dining cars to be converted and IIRC 30 Sightseer Lounges to be converted.
I honestly can't answer that question, although I do believe that at least a few of the reports (like Jackal's) came before the official relaunch of the CS. So I don't think that there have been all that many sightings of no PPC on the CS, since the relaunch. It could be settling in adjustments, it could be problems with something done during the refurbishment. I don't know, but hopefully things will settle down and they'll start running normally.
Is that another way of saying "You'll never be heard from again!"? :huh:
What's wrong with Bush bashing? In my case, any rumors are true. I'm an energetic Bush basher, and make no bones about it. Worst president in history, so why not bash on a regular basis, and at the drop of a hat? The clown shoulda been on the inside looking out - from behind bars - a long time ago. And that goes double for Dick Cheney. Trying to kill the pittance Amtrak receives, while waging an outrageously expensive and wrongheaded war. Need I say more?
