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Found this on his website...

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/addition...nsportation.pdf

"Support Amtrak Funding: Barack Obama has been a strong supporter of federal financial support for

Amtrak. Obama believes we need to reform Amtrak to improve accountability. In many parts of the country,

Amtrak is the only form of reliable transportation. In the U.S. Senate, Obama is a cosponsor of the Passenger

Rail Investment and Innovation Act of 2007, a leading act to provide long-term federal investment to Amtrak.

As president, Barack Obama will continue to fight for Amtrak funding and reform so that individuals, families

and businesses throughout the country have safe and reliable transportation options."
 
Found this on his website...http://www.barackobama.com/issues/addition...nsportation.pdf

"Support Amtrak Funding: Barack Obama has been a strong supporter of federal financial support for

Amtrak. Obama believes we need to reform Amtrak to improve accountability. In many parts of the country,

Amtrak is the only form of reliable transportation. In the U.S. Senate, Obama is a cosponsor of the Passenger

Rail Investment and Innovation Act of 2007, a leading act to provide long-term federal investment to Amtrak.

As president, Barack Obama will continue to fight for Amtrak funding and reform so that individuals, families

and businesses throughout the country have safe and reliable transportation options."
Finally! :)
 
Fantastic to see in print, thank you!

I'm sort of collapsed after two twelve-hour days of canvassing in Virginia followed by a rockin' victory party. I drove down to NoVA this time, instead of taking the train like two weeks ago, so I could have a car for the campaign work, but ... so exhausted and tired (and, well, tipsy for the moment :rolleyes: ) that I wish I were taking the train back to Philly tomorrow!

Nice to know the man I'm working for wants me to be able to take that train, too.
 
Thank you Obama. I tend to vote on the Republican side but Bush has been, pardon the pun, a train wreck in almost all areas. Obama has had my attention but with this revelation, he has more of it. I wonder where the other candidates stand on this issue. Go Amtrak!
 
What's Hillary's stance? I know McCain's. Obama got my vote already, but I was wondering...
Well McCain has the possibility to be very , indirectly, pro passenger rail.

One of his potential policies is the carbon tax, which if applied to transportation (I do not know if it will be) would be very conducive to a passenger rail operating environment, assuming that tax would be passed onto consumers.
 
Thank you Obama. I tend to vote on the Republican side but Bush has been, pardon the pun, a train wreck in almost all areas. Obama has had my attention but with this revelation, he has more of it. I wonder where the other candidates stand on this issue. Go Amtrak!
Huckabee is also supportive, but the statement from his campaign that I was able to find was much more general in nature, supporting mass transit and road expansion together:

Gov. Huckabee would ease congestion by emphasizing road expansion and mass-transit investment, fund strategic capital improvement projects to make more localities attractive to new businesses and workers, and rebuild the infrastructure of our “tools for trade,” such as improvements to and expansions of our seaports and airports.
Rafi
 
What's Hillary's stance? I know McCain's. Obama got my vote already, but I was wondering...
Here is what I found from her site (http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=2760)...

"Intercity Passenger Rail Invest an additional $1 billion in intercity passenger rail systems. In the 21st Century, intercity passenger rail should be a viewed as a critical component of the nation’s transportation system. It is an environmentally efficient alternative to highway driving and short flights; it relieves congestion on roads and airports; reduces the emission of automotive pollutants; and it stimulates economic growth by linking metropolitan areas. States have been left to pursue intercity rail projects with only modest federal support. Hillary believes that greater federal involvement is needed to maximize the potential of this transportation mode. She will increase federal investment in intercity passenger rail by $1 billion over 5 years in order to help finance capital projects. These investments are in addition to those made in Amtrak."

That last line does not sound so good for Amtrak.
 
I dunno. Perhaps Amtrak would be best off if cut from the responsibility of shorter distance runs. I still prefer Obama.
 
I'm registered Republican, so I can't vote in the Indiana Democrat primaries.....but I sure do hope Obama wins the Democrat ticket!! I'd definatly consider him if he's on the ballot for prez. As long as Hillary isn't on the ticket with him, he's got my vote.
 
It saddens me to come on here and see all of you single-issue voters. I love pax rail just as much as everyone else here, but we cannot afford much of any of the "change" Mr. Obama talks about. So, he's all about Amtrak. That and providing crappy government health care to everyone are the only positions I know of his.

The Federal government should not be in the rail business, the airline business, or the road building business. They should be state responibilities at the very least. Instead if subsidizing all of these things, we should let the free market prevail. No more handouts to airlines, road builders, or rail. That being said, I realize the benefits of pax rail and would like to see it improved with a good plan and realistic transition. Maybe if Obama wouldn't have voted to refund the war in Iraq and re-up the Patriot Act we could afford to throw a bone to Amtrak. It would be nice if I didn't have to call my Chicago customers all winter to reschedule due to frozen brakes on the Hiawatha (happened again yesterday).

A vote for Obama is another step towards socialism. I hope you all like your nanny state here. You've done such a good job with Amtrak, I just cant wait to see how AmHealth works out.

This is coming from someone seriously considering relocating out of the US. I wont pay my taxes into a system of secret socialism, which is what you Dems and Republicans alike are turning this country into. If I am going to be part of a Marxist-like society I'll move to a country that at least admits it's true political leanings.
 
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The Federal government should not be in the rail business, the airline business, or the road building business. ...

This is coming from someone seriously considering relocating out of the US. I wont pay my taxes into a system of secret socialism, which is what you Dems and Republicans alike are turning this country into. If I am going to be part of a Marxist-like society I'll move to a country that at least admits it's true political leanings.
Try Iraq. I hear the government isn't building any roads, airports or railroads there.

I hear Mosul is lovely this time of year.
 
It saddens me to come on here and see all of you single-issue voters. I love pax rail just as much as everyone else here, but we cannot afford much of any of the "change" Mr. Obama talks about. So, he's all about Amtrak. That and providing crappy government health care to everyone are the only positions I know of his.
The Federal government should not be in the rail business, the airline business, or the road building business. They should be state responibilities at the very least. Instead if subsidizing all of these things, we should let the free market prevail. No more handouts to airlines, road builders, or rail. That being said, I realize the benefits of pax rail and would like to see it improved with a good plan and realistic transition. Maybe if Obama wouldn't have voted to refund the war in Iraq and re-up the Patriot Act we could afford to throw a bone to Amtrak. It would be nice if I didn't have to call my Chicago customers all winter to reschedule due to frozen brakes on the Hiawatha (happened again yesterday).

A vote for Obama is another step towards socialism. I hope you all like your nanny state here. You've done such a good job with Amtrak, I just cant wait to see how AmHealth works out.

This is coming from someone seriously considering relocating out of the US. I wont pay my taxes into a system of secret socialism, which is what you Dems and Republicans alike are turning this country into. If I am going to be part of a Marxist-like society I'll move to a country that at least admits it's true political leanings.
Mr. Obama's stance on Amtrak is but one of many things I like about the man. He is the least "political" politician I have seen in a long time. He is an incredibly intelligent man, and he is not afraid to change things for the better. Maybe you haven't been paying attention for the past few years, but the US is heading up **** creek without a paddle. I'm not talking about the war in Iraq, which is a problem in and of itself.

Pay attention to the economy. Several interesting things have happened. First of all, to my benefit, in the past 5 years the price of gold has almost quadrupled. Gold goes up that fast when people think the government is about to fail, because gold, whilst safe, is generally not as good an investment as US treasury bonds. If people pick gold over bonds... need I say more? Second, there has been a very distinct, and almost unprecedented "disconnect" over the past few years. The US economy is not leading the trends this time. The UK is in bad shape, but other than the UK, other countries are nowhere near our economic problems. This isn't a world recession. This is a US recession.

Our banking industry is teetering. The sub-prime mortgage crisis has put at least a half dozen banks on the brink of bankruptcy. One more major problem in the economy, and you are going to see Wachovia, GMAC, JPMorgan-Chase, Bank of America, and several others closing their doors. The US can NOT cover the FDIC burden if those banks fail at once. Our national debt has increased tremendously, to the point where foreigners are very weary about investing money in us.

All three US automakers are on the brink of bankruptcy, as well. Somebody is going to need to save them. Within ten years, Ford and GM are going to either be bought out or given aid by the government. If the above banking crisis occurs, the US Government will NOT be able to aide them. We are, most likely, going to lose control of our auto industry. Credit debt in this country has close to doubled since 2000.

We have a reliance on two forms of transportation (Airplanes and cars) that we can not afford, both monetarily and resource/environmentally.

Then we can go into the whole Bush disaster. Bush is not particularly responsible for most of the above. He could have acted quicker to counter some of the problems had Iraq not been the issue, but most likely anybody with Republican economic theories would have acted similarly and came out with similar results.

The war in Iraq and Bush's nonpareil ability to **** other world leaders off has resulted in a world that doesn't respect us, doesn't want to help us, and largely ignores us. The economic disconnect means that the world is not particularly concerned with our general well being much, either.

That being said, Amtrak, passenger rail, and mass-transportation are areas I am very passionate about. I value a transportation system like I have described before, and I want to see it implemented. To recap: a hub-and-spoke system comprising aircraft for long distance, overnight rail for medium distances, reigonal and commuter rail for shorter distances, light rail for intra town/city travel, and feet for moving from rail to destinations. As such, a candidates stance on Amtrak and public transit means a lot to me.

I don't vehemently hate any of the current candidates. I would most likely stay in the US and tolerate any of the three. Senator McCain disagrees with almost all of my economic positions- he is an economic conservative, similar to most Republicans. He also will never get my vote because of his constant heavy opposition of Amtrak and public transit. That being said, he is an honorable and honest man, and he is by far the best candidate the Republicans have fielded in 28 years.

Hillary Clinton is a decent candidate, as well. She has some good priorities, and the Clintons (as a pair) have shown a pretty good control for running this place. I am not confidant that a woman is capable of running a country- I think that women's different emotional structure might make for problems. Although, to be fair, women (Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir come to mind) have ran countries with considerable dispatch, so I can't put too much weight on that. I despise her education policies with a passion. They run against every single education principle I stand for. If it was her against McCain, however, I'd vote for her. McCain's economic position will mean we might not get out of this intact.

Barack Obama is a fantastic candidate in my mind. He has little political experience, which in my opinion is his best feature. He wants change, and he is not afraid to pursue it. He is an incredibly intelligent human being. He is capable of making our countries dysfunctional system work. Maybe I could make a better president, I'm not sure. If he beats Hillary in the primaries, I am surely voting for him. If someone can repair our place in this world, and make our country work again, he can. If he can't, I don't think anyone can.
 
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It saddens me to come on here and see all of you single-issue voters.
Reading back, I don't see anyone who has said this is the ONLY factor in their decision.
Well here is one that made me post: If this means no more of the "Zero Funding" of the past, he's got my vote!

Perhaps I am taking my frustration with the sheeple of this country a little far on this board, but there are bigger things to worry about in a President than his/her stance on the dismal failure that is Amtrak. I've been on other forums, when I ask Obama supporters what they like about him it's "beacuse he's cool", or "I want 'free' heath care", or that he isn't in the pockets of lobbyists - which is an outright lie. Obama is a poularity contest, much like American Idol. Sad.
 
It saddens me to come on here and see all of you single-issue voters. I love pax rail just as much as everyone else here, but we cannot afford much of any of the "change" Mr. Obama talks about. So, he's all about Amtrak. That and providing crappy government health care to everyone are the only positions I know of his.
The Federal government should not be in the rail business, the airline business, or the road building business. They should be state responibilities at the very least. Instead if subsidizing all of these things, we should let the free market prevail. No more handouts to airlines, road builders, or rail. That being said, I realize the benefits of pax rail and would like to see it improved with a good plan and realistic transition. Maybe if Obama wouldn't have voted to refund the war in Iraq and re-up the Patriot Act we could afford to throw a bone to Amtrak. It would be nice if I didn't have to call my Chicago customers all winter to reschedule due to frozen brakes on the Hiawatha (happened again yesterday).

A vote for Obama is another step towards socialism. I hope you all like your nanny state here. You've done such a good job with Amtrak, I just cant wait to see how AmHealth works out.

This is coming from someone seriously considering relocating out of the US. I wont pay my taxes into a system of secret socialism, which is what you Dems and Republicans alike are turning this country into. If I am going to be part of a Marxist-like society I'll move to a country that at least admits it's true political leanings.
Mr. Obama's stance on Amtrak is but one of many things I like about the man. He is the least "political" politician I have seen in a long time. He is an incredibly intelligent man, and he is not afraid to change things for the better. Maybe you haven't been paying attention for the past few years, but the US is heading up **** creek without a paddle. I'm not talking about the war in Iraq, which is a problem in and of itself.

Pay attention to the economy. Several interesting things have happened. First of all, to my benefit, in the past 5 years the price of gold has almost quadrupled. Gold goes up that fast when people think the government is about to fail, because gold, whilst safe, is generally not as good an investment as US treasury bonds. If people pick gold over bonds... need I say more? Second, there has been a very distinct, and almost unprecedented "disconnect" over the past few years. The US economy is not leading the trends this time. The UK is in bad shape, but other than the UK, other countries are nowhere near our economic problems. This isn't a world recession. This is a US recession.

Our banking industry is teetering. The sub-prime mortgage crisis has put at least a half dozen banks on the brink of bankruptcy. One more major problem in the economy, and you are going to see Wachovia, GMAC, JPMorgan-Chase, Bank of America, and several others closing their doors. The US can NOT cover the FDIC burden if those banks fail at once. Our national debt has increased tremendously, to the point where foreigners are very weary about investing money in us.

All three US automakers are on the brink of bankruptcy, as well. Somebody is going to need to save them. Within ten years, Ford and GM are going to either be bought out or given aid by the government. If the above banking crisis occurs, the US Government will NOT be able to aide them. We are, most likely, going to lose control of our auto industry. Credit debt in this country has close to doubled since 2000.

We have a reliance on two forms of transportation (Airplanes and cars) that we can not afford, both monetarily and resource/environmentally.

Then we can go into the whole Bush disaster. Bush is not particularly responsible for most of the above. He could have acted quicker to counter some of the problems had Iraq not been the issue, but most likely anybody with Republican economic theories would have acted similarly and came out with similar results.

The war in Iraq and Bush's nonpareil ability to **** other world leaders off has resulted in a world that doesn't respect us, doesn't want to help us, and largely ignores us. The economic disconnect means that the world is not particularly concerned with our general well being much, either.

That being said, Amtrak, passenger rail, and mass-transportation are areas I am very passionate about. I value a transportation system like I have described before, and I want to see it implemented. To recap: a hub-and-spoke system comprising aircraft for long distance, overnight rail for medium distances, reigonal and commuter rail for shorter distances, light rail for intra town/city travel, and feet for moving from rail to destinations. As such, a candidates stance on Amtrak and public transit means a lot to me.

I don't vehemently hate any of the current candidates. I would most likely stay in the US and tolerate any of the three. Senator McCain disagrees with almost all of my economic positions- he is an economic conservative, similar to most Republicans. He also will never get my vote because of his constant heavy opposition of Amtrak and public transit. That being said, he is an honorable and honest man, and he is by far the best candidate the Republicans have fielded in 28 years.

Hillary Clinton is a decent candidate, as well. She has some good priorities, and the Clintons (as a pair) have shown a pretty good control for running this place. I am not confidant that a woman is capable of running a country- I think that women's different emotional structure might make for problems. Although, to be fair, women (Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir come to mind) have ran countries with considerable dispatch, so I can't put too much weight on that. I despise her education policies with a passion. They run against every single education principle I stand for. If it was her against McCain, however, I'd vote for her. McCain's economic position will mean we might not get out of this intact.

Barack Obama is a fantastic candidate in my mind. He has little political experience, which in my opinion is his best feature. He wants change, and he is not afraid to pursue it. He is an incredibly intelligent human being. He is capable of making our countries dysfunctional system work. Maybe I could make a better president, I'm not sure. If he beats Hillary in the primaries, I am surely voting for him. If someone can repair our place in this world, and make our country work again, he can. If he can't, I don't think anyone can.
I agree with everything you have said here, except that John McCain is the WORST candidate they have fielded - worse than Viagra Dole, and I disagree that Obama can save us. I've been pulling for Ron Paul, which everyone seems to minimize as a kook thanks to the media that everyone trusts so dearly around this country. How does Obama plan to pay for his social programs? How does he finance his brand of "change"? Paul will finance it by reversing our harmful foreign policy. Paul will reform or dismatle the Federal Reserve and restore value to our dollar.

But few from this forum will vote for him, mainly since he has consistently voted against Amtrak funding, in that it is unconsitutional. Anything that is unconstiutional will get a Nay vote from him - not just Amtrak: the DoE, Homeland, FDA, etc. All scaled back or abolished. My city and state are falling apart, we already tax too much here and cannot afford to even plow snow or fix potholes. Maybe with less going to Washington we could fix our day-to-day problems around here - including thawing out the brakes on the Hiawatha so those of us in business can trade where the commerce really is in the region - Chicago.

So, again, how will Obama finance his brand of change? Higher taxes now or more borrowing against future wage earners taxes?
 
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High taxes are not automatically bad. I will admit, out front, that I have socialist leanings. Additionally, I believe Karl Marx was largely correct in his predictions, as well as believe in his system of government. I don't think the world is ready for it, but I believe in it. If you think Stalin-and-later USSR was an example of Marx's theory, try reading even a basic summary of it.
 
The Federal government should not be in the rail business, the airline business, or the road building business. ...

This is coming from someone seriously considering relocating out of the US. I wont pay my taxes into a system of secret socialism, which is what you Dems and Republicans alike are turning this country into. If I am going to be part of a Marxist-like society I'll move to a country that at least admits it's true political leanings.
Try Iraq. I hear the government isn't building any roads, airports or railroads there.

I hear Mosul is lovely this time of year.
Ah, one of those constructive "love it or leave it" responses. I am used to these. FWIW we don't belong in Iraq, where we are in fact building airports, bridges and pothole-free roads. I was thinking more like Ireland or Mauritius.

I feel that I am a customer of the United States. I pay taxes for services rendered. I do not feel I am getting my money's worth. So I will look to shop elsewhere. This would be a logical response to you, have anymore quips about the weather in Mosul?

You remind me of the jackass who used to own the vacuum cleaner store around here. Couldn't keep to his regular posted hours, promised to "order" bags for you and would not, store smelled like dog crap and cigar smoke. When asked by me (and others in the neighborhood) why he wasnt open when his door said "OPEN", and why it took 6 weeks for him to remember to order the special bags my vacuum he sold me uses, I was told "if you don't like how I do business then go elsewhere".

Well guess what, everyone took that advice, he is now closed and hangs out at the 6AM tavern smoking away bitching about how WalMart closed down his store.
 
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