ScottC4746
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Seeing my timetable is dated until April 30, 2009...when will the new one actually be available. The PDF on www.amtrak.com still has the one I have. Do I dare run down to Fullerton and try to pick one up?
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The new one becomes effective May 11th. They are already printed and I was able to get my hands on one yesterday because volunteer at my station. You can try asking for one though. Just note, no NEC, Empire Service, and Keystone trains are printed in this summers timetable. It said due to on going trackwork, timetables will be printed separately and the schedules will reappear in the Fall/Winter schedule.
Some changes I've noticed: Texas Eagle arrives into Chicago before 2 PM now. Lake Shore leaves Chicago at 9 PM now. (I think most of us knew that) And Sparks, Nevada is no longer a station stop.
Some changes I've noticed: Texas Eagle arrives into Chicago before 2 PM now. Lake Shore leaves Chicago at 9 PM now. (I think most of us knew that) And Sparks, Nevada is no longer a station stop.
I picked up a new one in Atlanta yesterday when I picked up my tickets for the NTD event.
You might want to run over here-- that would be better exercise than running to Fullerton..
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I picked one up yesterday locally.
Simply asked for it.
Simply asked for it.
What's on the cover?
wayman
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What happened? Did they go through the whole 180-day thing and I somehow completely missed hearing about it?
"Cover: Amtrak Cascades has just passed the Steilacoom, Washington ferry dock on Puget Sound....."
It's an evening sunset shot. The side of the train has the reflection of the water and mountains on the side of it. At first I thought it looked like the original Talgo test color scheme. Very nice, indeed.
It's an evening sunset shot. The side of the train has the reflection of the water and mountains on the side of it. At first I thought it looked like the original Talgo test color scheme. Very nice, indeed.
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I believe the law requires the 180-day notification to take place when a locale loses service, not a station. Since Sparks is only 3 miles from Reno, it can be considered the Reno metropolitan area. Since Reno still has service, 180-day notification is not required.
It surprises me that Sparks remained a stop this long. The only reason Amtrak made Sparks a stop was for crew change and servicing. The old Reno stop was at street level and when the Zephyr stopped it blocked a bunch of major streets in downtown Reno. That being the case, Amtrak was required to make only a minimal stop at Reno. The lengthy stop to change the crews and do other assorted stuff was at Sparks.
When the Reno trench was opened, the restriction on dwell time was lifted. Amtrak moved the crew change and servicing from Sparks to Reno. With that move, Sparks, just three miles east, lacked a reason for existence. Add to that the fact that the Amtrak Sparks "station" was nothing more than a track right in the middle of a major Union Pacific yard. This added a security issue for the UP and a safety concern for the Amtrak passengers. So, the UP wanted Amtrak out, Amtrak wanted to get out, and now they're out.
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Joel N. Weber II
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Also, I doubt there are passengers who are seriously upset by the change. Even if the 180 day notification were required in this case, I sort of doubt there would be passengers screaming to their Congresspeople if that formality had been skipped.
Then again, are there statistics on how popular this stop was with riders?
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ALC Rail Writer
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Another new thing-- the LSL is stopping in Bryan, Ohio. Bryan hasn't seen Amtrak in a few years (three IIRC) and back then it saw both the CL and the LSL. It would seem that the LSL and CL no longer mirror each-other totally West of CLE.
p&sr
OBS Chief
Hardly anybody ever used it. Those few who got on or off there mostly did so by mistake... either their Tickets had been issued wrong, or they had no idea where Sparks really was.
Sad to see it go, though. I'll always remember the hours fondly spent parked in their yards hoping the Zephyr would get rolling again... only to face still worse delays atop Donner Pass due to a breakdown in the Summit Tunnel!
RTOlson
Lead Service Attendant
According to Amtrak's Nevada stat sheet (PDF), the Sparks station served 2,095 passengers (technically boardings and alightings) in 2008. Wikipedia reports this is a 24 percent increase over the past year.
It was the least-used station in Nevada (Winnemucca was second with 2,730). Reno was the most-traveled station with 69,620.
And now you know.
It was the least-used station in Nevada (Winnemucca was second with 2,730). Reno was the most-traveled station with 69,620.
And now you know.
cpamtfan
OBS Chief
Actually, the LSL has been stopping there as per the last shedule (and I know it stopped there because I woke up in the middle of the night and saw the "Bryan, Oh" sign on the side of a lit shelter next to a spot light lit platform (and I swear I wasn't just dreaming of it).
cpamtfan-Peter
ALC Rail Writer
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Its not on the Fall/Winter 09 reports... and it wasn't on the FY2008 report to Ohio. The CL and LSL have been passing through Bryan but they haven't been stopping there for quite some time.
Long Train Runnin'
Engineer
So if I order one online should I get the new one then?
The Spring/Summer Table cover.
The 09/10 Vacations Cover.
The 09/10 Vacations Cover.
Long Train Runnin'
Engineer
Thanks for posting the picture! I should get mine in the mail tomorrow!
I ordered mine on-line about 2 weeks ago, and got it in the mail about 1 week ago.
Rail Freak
Engineer
Got mine today. Now, I I'm gonna put it to work!!!!! B)
RTOlson
Lead Service Attendant
Alas, that California timetable is from Spring 2008.
I haven't yet seen the new California timetable although I saw some new wallet cards for San Joaquins and Surfliner at the California State Railroad Museum during National Train Day. They have photographic covers, but the timetable appeared like the standard Amtrak grid.
I haven't yet seen the new California timetable although I saw some new wallet cards for San Joaquins and Surfliner at the California State Railroad Museum during National Train Day. They have photographic covers, but the timetable appeared like the standard Amtrak grid.
amtrakwolverine
Engineer
you can get it by mail but last time i checked amtrak doesn't have it for PDF download. they got rid of that part.
RTOlson
Lead Service Attendant
There's no need to be sorry. I just wanted to note that it wasn't the current Calif. timetable so there wouldn't be any confusion.
And I know what it's like to write late at night ... as I'm writing this at 3 in the morning.
And I know what it's like to write late at night ... as I'm writing this at 3 in the morning.
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