FRA's proposal for Long Distance Trains

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If the truth be known numerous commuter lines have already been contracted out to private companies; in IN, IL, VA and FL to name a few. These services are almost totally guaranteed to be profitable for the operators as government contracts out the work to them. The government/private commuter line partnerships run well but the bigger question is do they save the government any money?
 
If the truth be known numerous commuter lines have already been contracted out to private companies; in IN, IL, VA and FL to name a few. These services are almost totally guaranteed to be profitable for the operators as government contracts out the work to them. The government/private commuter line partnerships run well but the bigger question is do they save the government any money?
Frankly, it's easier to list the commuter rail services that are directly operated by transit agencies rather than being contract operated. I'm probably going to miss a couple of smaller systems but I think it's limited to LIRR, parts of Metra, Metro-North, New Jersey Transit, and SEPTA with everything else being operated by some entity other than the transit system.

For what it's worth, many local bus transit systems are also contract-operated.
 
The "contracted out" commuter rail lines are really not privatized in any real sense. The commuter rail agency owns the equipment, owns the tracks (typically), owns the maintenance shops, sets the schedules, sets the fares, has the fare revenue deposited into its account, and pays the bills. What they do is to hire a contractor to do *operations*.

This allows them to avoid having the railroad employees on the civil service payroll -- making it easier to get rid of incompetent managers, at least every 5 years when the contract comes up for renewal -- and it makes it a hell of a lot easier to change work rules. These seem to be the major benefits.

It's bascially equivalent to the government hiring a private contractor to mow the grass at the public park. Nobody would claim that the park had been "privatized".

I'd be OK with Amtrak doing this sort of thing, since it seems to work OK. Amtrak's unions probably wouldn't be OK with it though.

In fact, what actually seems to be happening bit by bit is that Amtrak is *becoming* the contractor, with the states owning the equipment, owning the tracks, owning the maintenance shops, setting the schedules, setting the fares, paying the bills...
 
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Well, and that probably means that a UK-style model will eventually crop up organically. Outside the extended NEC, at least, if (for example) WA/OR end up owning their equipment then there's no reason to hire Amtrak for anything but an operating crew (and only needing that because most of the freights only want to deal with Amtrak if they can help it). Even that might be able to be dispensed with on a case-by-case basis.
 
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