NW cannonball
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Issue for me is - you - as a passenger - like passengers on airlines - grant Amtrak the right to search - for security of transportation only - a limited right to search - for the security of fellow passengers.Thanks, BC. I knew about there had to be a reason to enter a dwelling even with notice, but didn't go into that part. I mainly wanted to clarify that the landlord's admittedly limited right to enter are not limited or controlled by the 4th amendment guarantees against unreasonable search, since he's not acting as an agent of the government.
4th amendment guarantee against search is fairly cut and dried to me when it comes to a permanent dwelling (rented or owned). It seems to become fuzzier when it comes to transient situations like hotels and trains, and I don't pretend to know where the limits are. Bottom line is if they put you off the train because you wouldn't consent to search, you are off the train. You may have grounds for action later, but right then you are stuck in Omaha (or Reno).
No right at all for every local law enforcement to stop the train and search without a warrant.
Amtrak will very reasonably resist any supposed right of any local law to stop the train for warrantless search. The trains might not get anywhere.
And yeah - this is a developing issue for lawyers.