Coast Starlight hits truck in Ventura County CA, partially derails (6/28/23)
- Thread starter demonizedwater
- Start date
Help Support Amtrak Unlimited Discussion Forum:
ljclark
Train Attendant
If that's the spot, here is a shot looking north from 118/Los Angeles Ave. There is a STOP sign (reddish smudge) above a white rectangular sign that typically identifies it as a private crossing...So no gates and no red lights.
Enforcement yes, but this was a private at grade crossing. No warning lights or gates. Did he stop? Or just go for it? Cameras in the engine will help tell the story. 10% fine is a nothing burger. In this case it was a county truck, so the insurance or taxpayer would pay.
Higher insurance is been fought over. Not that will improve anything in a multi-million wreck.
Reapplying for licenses means nothing. Unless it has change the company executive can not reapply for a trucking license, when they lose there authority to operate.
Most accidents between a car and truck is the cars fault. 100% of the grade crossings are the operator fault. Ok that not true, but this type of collision it’s the truck operator fault. I have called in failed grade crossing system, only to watch a train slow down but never stop before charging by it.
More to the point there a gate to access the farm. So no public use here.
It seem the driver was injured and did not get clear of the truck, that why we have not yet seen his story. My trucks camera have been update, I now have a driver facing camera with audio capture. Insurance requirements it seems. The technology is still be worked on however, the system will give instructions and there are a bit off. “Please slow down” when it miss reads an exits speed limit sign. Sorry the two other system say 60mph, my two eyes saw 60mph, the truck was at 59mph. It read the exit speed limited sign.
Anyways I hope the people recover from there injuries.
I think those were for the SWC because it had been experience a bunch of delays and cancellations that week. They had to reposition some sets.
Do you mean June 9th?
delayed Zephyred
Train Attendant
Yes of course. Blame. my cellphone and my urgency to get post out before I lost cellphone signal next time I'll wait until the hotel to post on forum. Oops.
west point
Engineer
Why is it that all these incidents seem to have more persons watching than actual making sure operations or movement successful?
You’re talking about the recovery process?
The cleanup crew, the owners of the track, Amtrak personal, investigator, insurance adjuster, outside transportation. A lot of bodies waiting for there turn to do something. Standard hurry and wait operation.
No, there is a good possibility of damage to the running gear/brake rigging. All the cars will require a thorough inspection before being returned to service at the very least.
If the damage is fairly light, 8th St Yard in LA should be able to handle it and the cars will not have to be returned to Beech Grove.
The cars should be being returned to 8th St in a hospital train at low speed, since their brakes and running gear will be considered unreliable.
A Conductor on the Eaglet once told me that when you see "Service disruption" in Arkansas or Missouri, it almost invariably relates to someone with a long trailer trying to get across a private grade crossing, getting stuck, then a lot of time trying to get free without calling it in.
That is consistant with the wreck last year in NW Missouri, but this truck was hit in the cab, yet the driver wasn't injured? The crossing looks pretty level, and there is excellent visibility.
The driver was injured. Visibility is excellent only in one direction. The other direction is a left turn on to the grade crossing. One bets money that was his direction of travel. Still no excuse, you should be extra careful but much more understandable on what happened and how the driver failed to react correctly to the train. Of course lower his window down and taking a direct look down the tracks is what should of been done.
Amtrak has additionally canceled #11 on July 1 and 2. I had rebooked our 6/30 reservation to 7/1. Just notified that too was canceled, and when trying to rebook to 7/2, that also was canceled. Flying to the convention instead.
I was originally booked on yesterday's #11 Starlight from Portland to Paso Robles and rebooked for July 2nd. I just received a message from Amtrak saying the July 2 train is cancelled. Anyone know what is going on? This is the conclusion leg of a circle trip that took us to Glacier National Park. We are waiting in a hotel in Portland right now, with expenses piling up ---
Surfliner is running normal service so it's either residual crew/equipment issues or something else north of SLO.
Twitter has (temporarily?) changed to requiring an account to view Tweets, so I can only look back at AmtrakAlerts on Amtrak's site. Nothing posted there within the past 24 hours.
Twitter has (temporarily?) changed to requiring an account to view Tweets, so I can only look back at AmtrakAlerts on Amtrak's site. Nothing posted there within the past 24 hours.
Thanks for the info, I am on hold right now with the Amtrak reservations people to straighten out what we're going to do. Any more info will be appreciated ...
The Surfliner did not lose an entire consist as the Coast Starlight did.
Emeryville has facilities (Oakland) for turning and servicing a train set which SLO and SBA do not have. So for the time being, 11 is terminating and 14 is originating in EMY.
Right now Amtrak.com is showing the train cancelled entirely from July 1 through July 7, it isn't even shown as running between Seattle and Emeryville. The first 11 is July 8 and the first 14 is July 9.
That certainly is not due to track repair.
If it is real, it may be a reflection of an attempt to pull together another consist to replace the wrecked one. Past experience shows it is also possibly the long cancellation is a transient artifact in the reservation system while they adjust things and may not last that long. 14(29), now enroute to Seattle, is not going to turn as 11(1) tomorrow. And 11(30) is not running.
At the very least it seems like they do not want Starlight consists in Emeryville.
Update: further posts show the Schedules tab is unreliable when a route is partly cancelled. The Starlight is running SEA-EMY
Last edited:
Just looked...seeing #14 EMY>SEA on 7/1 and on. #11 showing "Sold Out" on 7/1 and 7/2 and available on 7/3.
#11 SEA>LAX on 7/10 as you stated above.
Under a "normal" schedule #11 arrives EMY in AM and #14 departs in evening so, the trainset would only be there during the day. Assuming it is "turned".
Servicing could take place in nearby Oakland.
Last edited:
A thought about the complete Starlight cancellation. Once 14 arrives in Seattle tonight there will be two consists in Seattle and one in LA. It would appear to me the plan is to hold off restarting until there is another consist in LA. Then start service by dispatching one Seattle consist the day before the first one out of LA, that allows LA to dispatch two consists before the first one from Seattle arrives, re-establishing the normal cycle.
I hold some small hope that the long delay reflects that they think at least some of cars of the wreck consist can be inspected, repaired and restored to roadworthy condition by 8th St Yard in the interim.
Update: the speculation here on consist positioning was based on erroneous information from the Schedules tab. The Starlight is running SEA-EMY
I hold some small hope that the long delay reflects that they think at least some of cars of the wreck consist can be inspected, repaired and restored to roadworthy condition by 8th St Yard in the interim.
Update: the speculation here on consist positioning was based on erroneous information from the Schedules tab. The Starlight is running SEA-EMY
Last edited:
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
-
B-29 Superfortress WWII bomber set to land in the Lehigh Valley- Latest: Night Ranger
-
-
-
