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The OP quoted the ENTIRE article. That is against copyright rules and the rules of this forum.You don't think the opening post was cut back far more than is necessary to avoid copyright complications? Not every infraction requires a sledge hammer to correct.
I guess this is why so many in New Jersey need to commute to New York for work.It takes jobs to pay taxes. But it takes lower taxes to attract jobs.
The primary source of PA revenue is from bridge and tunnel tolls, and those tolls are primarily paid by NJ residents going into New York. There is relatively little reverse auto commuting from New York into New Jersey. In that respect, the PA contribution is not really 50% from New York. It is primarily from NJ motorists.Weren't the costs going to be split between the feds ($3 billion), Port Authority ($3 billion), and state of NJ ($2.7 billion)? That doesn't seem to be a completely unreasonable break-down. New Jersey would seem to gain the most from the project, so its share ($2.7 billion plus 1/2 of $3 billion) was largest; New York gains from the project as well, so it ought to bear some of the cost burden, which it would have ($1.5 billion, 1/2 of PA's $3 billion); and the nation as a whole benefits somewhat, so it was to bear some of the burden.
All that being said, I found it quite frustrating that NJT & Amtrak could not work together to find a way to construct and tunnel that would serve both railroads.
This New Yorker, formerly NJ resident who lived in one of the areas that will be most affected by the failure of Christie to continue to the project, happens to be for the project. But I'm for the project not because I see any benefit to NY; there is none. I see the benefit for NJ. NY doesn't care if NJ builds this tunnel. There is no benefit to NY. In fact, NJ's failure to build this tunnel just means that more jobs go to New York residents instead of NJ residents. That's why NY isn't helping to pay.I don't think it is a coincidence that those who are most upset by Governor Christi canceling the project are not from New Jersey. If New York residents want the tunnel, how about anteing up a few bucks. New Jersey and New Jersey taxpayers were taking a huge risk with this project. If costs ran over estimate, New Jersey would have been on the hook for potentially billions. I am grateful this governor had the courage to pull the plug on a bad deal.
If New York City, New York State, or the feds have a better deal for New Jersey taxpayers, step on up. Otherwise, with no financial stake in the tunnel and nothing to lose if things go wrong, New Yorkers and the New York Times should mind their own business.
Click on the link above for much more.By PATRICK McGEEHANPublished: October 7, 2010
The largest public transit project in the nation, a commuter train tunnel under the Hudson River to Manhattan, was halted on Thursday by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey because, he said, the state could not afford its share of the project’s rising cost.
Mr. Christie’s decision stunned other government officials and advocates of public transportation because work on the tunnel was under way and $3 billion of federal financing had already been arranged — more money than had been committed to any other transit project in America.
The governor, a Republican, said he decided to withdraw his support for the project on Thursday after hearing from state transportation officials that the project would cost at least $2.5 billion more than its original price of $8.7 billion. He said that New Jersey would have been responsible for the overrun and that he could not put the taxpayers of the state “on what would be a never-ending hook.”
Comment in response at the link above:well ARC is back on life support:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/hudson_river_tunnel_project_ma.html
Bearcat21 October 08, 2010 at 4:29PM
See my post from yesterday regarding this story... Christie is a MASTER at poker. He knows that the socialist regime in Washington would never let a monster building project, with thousands of union jobs (voters) hanging in the balance, they'll bail it out.
Christie is masterfully playing his hand and in the end will get New Jersey out-from-under this future albatross and the Fed's will pick up the tab or at least assume the risk to the state on any overruns. In the end we'll be at budget... the fed's will get hosed and NJ/NY get their tunnel.
Dem's... just come to grips with the fact that this guy is really good. Period.
And you deleted the ENTIRE article sans links, completely neutering the opening post. Sometimes it's better to use a scalpel instead of machete.The OP quoted the ENTIRE article. That is against copyright rules and the rules of this forum.You don't think the opening post was cut back far more than is necessary to avoid copyright complications? Not every infraction requires a sledge hammer to correct.
I'm thinking that girls have not been working out that well for him and this is his entertainment.The maker of those maps should stick to dreaming of girls, as Transportation is not his cup of tea.
a dream thats all that is.
LOL , the person who helped him make it is an Amtrak Engineer , also 2 Transit planners helped him......idk i like his ideas.The maker of those maps should stick to dreaming of girls, as Transportation is not his cup of tea.
a dream thats all that is.
So we shouldn't have thru service , every other Major Regional Rail system in the world does and NYC doesn't? Thats absurd and stupid to think like that , we need more Rail lines through Manhattan the system needs to be freeded up some more.All I can say is it is easy to draw lines on maps. And just drawing a bunch of lines on a map does not make it a plan
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