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john h

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I got this email today about X-Trains partning with Amtrak to provide service to Vegas, So I thought I would share so we can discuss, I know a lot of people ask about train service to Vegas

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chael Barron, President and CEO, Las Vegas Railway Express, Inc.

Greetings shareholders and friends: After three long years developing our competency on the X Train concept, I am proud to report that we are opening our travel company which will be doing all the booking for the X Train. It is called X Train Vacations and soon you will be able to begin booking passenger rail travel on a number of rail routes in the USA. This is NOT in lieu of our LA to Vegas X Train service, but rather in addition to it.

Our X Train service from LA to Vegas is still making progress with the major component being the development of a $10 million new station facility here in Las Vegas. That process will take about one more year to complete. We have begun the site planning and architectural and civil engineering and now have our preliminary plans into the City to review and approve. We are on government's timetable here and expect approval by August. Facility construction of this sort takes time and our project is no exception. This item is the pacing item on running our service between LA and Vegas.

Funny thing, though. While working on this service for the X Train, we began to be approached by others to see if we could run similar casino fun train style services on other rail routes in the US. Turns out there are several routes which start from a metropolitan area, like LA and go to a casino/resort destination, like Vegas, only smaller. Our light went on here and we began speaking to Amtrak about the possibility of hooking our casino fun train cars onto their existing train which already go to the destinations we want. No problem. And, no stations to build and no railroads to negotiate with for access. We just book the cars & run.

So, we decided to begin business on these routes while we finish the LA/Vegas X Train route. We have started our own travel & tour package agency, which we needed anyway to earn commissions on our Vegas route from various suppliers of tourist related products. Turns out, many of our hotel partners here in Vegas own hotels in other parts of the country too. They think our idea is a good one so we could book hotel rooms and other services, just like we plan here in Vegas. We are hiring travel personnel here in Vegas to handle the bookings. Rail travel is up in the US, so timing is good.

Here's the good news, we can be operational and collecting revenue from bookings on several rail routes we have identified in as little as 90 days. It's good practice for us too, with the LA/Vegas route coming on line in a year or less, we will already have our operations down pat by the time the really big volume come from that route.

We are developing our booking website now and are securing package deals with the hotels
along the way. Our arrangement with Amtrak is ready whenever we are to haul the trains. we have several routes selected to start and we already own 16 rail cars and have sources for others. It's exciting to be starting with the kind of service we have envisioned for so long. Our business model is now even bigger than before and X Train Vacations is getting its launch as a national brand for Casino Fun Trains. Stay tuned for more info on our routes and general progress on all fronts.
 
I don't think the X-train to Vegas will be a partnership with Amtrak in any way, shape, or form. Rather, the X-train folks will be directly coordinating with the Union Pacific Railroad to run these trains on the UP ROW.
 
I don't think the X-train to Vegas will be a partnership with Amtrak in any way, shape, or form. Rather, the X-train folks will be directly coordinating with the Union Pacific Railroad to run these trains on the UP ROW.
Several articles have mentioned that Amtrak will operate the trains. As far as I can tell, an actual agreement hasn't been signed, but these all indicate that that's the plan:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/barron-497672-company-vegas.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/23/calif-vegas-party-train/1721999/

Plus the big article in Trains magazine last year.
 
X-Train probably wants to take advantage of Amtrak's insurance, not their trackage rights which you rightly point out have nothing to do with this proposal. It is a major expense, often prohibitive, for excursions and few insurance carriers even will write it, and the railroads require insurance. Many operations that you wouldn't think would have Amtrak involved at all do because of that.

It sounds to me like they've run into issues on getting their own train to Vegas via BNSF and UP and/or building their Vegas station, which is no big surprise, and they're trying to find a way to generate some revenue from their investment in the cars absent their "party train."

Wonder why they don't just enter into an agreement with the Plaza and use the station that's already in the hotel. It probably needs some work, but it is pretty much intact and "move in ready" from everything I hear.
 
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From what I can gather, the issue may be some version of track access rights more than the station. There's also the issue of putting a few million into a "stopgap station".
 
Thanks everyone for their thoughts, I will have to check out the Plaza station in October if I have time
 
Interesting tidbit from the OC Register site:

Under the Union Pacific agreement, Las Vegas Railway will pay $56 million for upgrades and use of the tracks. The company must pay $27 million of that by March 31. If the company fails to make the payment to Union Pacific, it will lose its $600,000 deposit.
I don't see any news since then, but there are frequent and recent updates (6/3 is the latest) on the train service's blog, so I assume they paid the UP bill:

http://www.vegasxtrain.com/x-train-blog.html

I'm not the target demographic (young, deep-pocketed, math-challenged), so maybe that's why the "Conductresses" concept leaves me going "meh". But I hope they're able to make it work.

The articles cite the defunct Desert Wind Amtrak service that ended in 1997, but a lot has changed since then. Are there any other examples of privately-financed rail lines? Dallas/Fort Worth is looking at proposals for public-private funded commuter rail options, and a Japanese company has progressed far enough towards linking Texas cities with high-speed rail that the station location fights have started. If this proposal actually rolls out by its New Years Eve target date, it might be a boost for the Texas projects.
 
Thanks everyone for their thoughts, I will have to check out the Plaza station in October if I have time
Aloha

What Part of October?

Currently the Station is used as a break room for the Plaza. It can be seen from the Parking lot of the Smith Center.

PM me with your travel information if you feel like it. I currently live about 5 miles from the station. I wish it had passenger service.
 
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