Correct me if Im wrong but I believe you are refering to a section with the old upper and lower berths that serve as facing seats during the day and are made up with the lower folded down like a roomette and the upper berth folded down from the cieling! The roomettes and deluxe bedrooms are more like what we are used to on our Amtrak sleepers! Curtains are used to section off the beds hence the use of section instead of roomette! :unsure: Being old Heritage cars they are single level!In the VIA rail blurb, I assume that a berth for 1 is much the same as a roomette? Whats the deal with the some of the berths you have to step up to? How does that work, as I assume the sleepers are not double deckers?
No I understand the upper and lower berths, in the write up for a cabin for one it says "There are two types of cabins for one:Correct me if Im wrong but I believe you are refering to a section with the old upper and lower berths that serve as facing seats during the day and are made up with the lower folded down like a roomette and the upper berth folded down from the cieling! The roomettes and deluxe bedrooms are more like what we are used to on our Amtrak sleepers! Curtains are used to section off the beds hence the use of section instead of roomette! :unsure: Being old Heritage cars they are single level!In the VIA rail blurb, I assume that a berth for 1 is much the same as a roomette? Whats the deal with the some of the berths you have to step up to? How does that work, as I assume the sleepers are not double deckers?
Correct me if Im wrong but I believe you are refering to a section with the old upper and lower berths that serve as facing seats during the day and are made up with the lower folded down like a roomette and the upper berth folded down from the cieling! The roomettes and deluxe bedrooms are more like what we are used to on our Amtrak sleepers! Curtains are used to section off the beds hence the use of section instead of roomette! :unsure: Being old Heritage cars they are single level!In the VIA rail blurb, I assume that a berth for 1 is much the same as a roomette? Whats the deal with the some of the berths you have to step up to? How does that work, as I assume the sleepers are not double deckers?
Correct Bill, I understand the sections setup, but its the roomettes/cabin for one set up that confuses me, as I cant see how the staggering gives more space. I suppose its obvious if you see it in the flesh.Neil in re-reading your post very carefully I have begun to suspect you are not talking about sections.
Instead, I think you are talking about duplex roomettes. These are roomettes which are staggered. It is the staggering which causes you to step up into some and floor level for others. I guess they can fit more in this way.
I hope nobody confuses this with slumbercoaches, which the Canadian definately does not have, but also are staggrered at one end of the car.
Correct Bill, I understand the sections setup, but its the roomettes/cabin for one set up that confuses me, as I cant see how the staggering gives more space. I suppose its obvious if you see it in the flesh.Neil in re-reading your post very carefully I have begun to suspect you are not talking about sections.
Instead, I think you are talking about duplex roomettes. These are roomettes which are staggered. It is the staggering which causes you to step up into some and floor level for others. I guess they can fit more in this way.
I hope nobody confuses this with slumbercoaches, which the Canadian definately does not have, but also are staggrered at one end of the car.
Its the last few lines in this description that I can't work out how it works.
http://www.viarail.ca/en/resources/cabin-one
Are there any online plans of the VR sleepers anywhere? (not the ones on the VR website)
Google brings up this thread http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/lofiversio....php/t8117.html includes a photo from some guy called MrFSS and makes it a lot clearer!!Here is a not so good picture of the duplex end of a sleeper.
As I understand it, the person who looks out the bottom window, when their bed is made up has a little cave like area under the floor of the person who looks out the top window. They are in two separate distinct rooms that "overlap" each other in the night time configuration. The feet of one person go over/under the head of the other person and vice versa. During the day, there is one seat area about the size of 1/2 of todays roomette. Very small area at night where your feet go into in the little cave area. Very hard to explain, but if you saw one you would understand.
I had forgotten about that photo I took a number of years ago.Google brings up this thread http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/lofiversio....php/t8117.html includes a photo from some guy called MrFSS and makes it a lot clearer!!Here is a not so good picture of the duplex end of a sleeper.
As I understand it, the person who looks out the bottom window, when their bed is made up has a little cave like area under the floor of the person who looks out the top window. They are in two separate distinct rooms that "overlap" each other in the night time configuration. The feet of one person go over/under the head of the other person and vice versa. During the day, there is one seat area about the size of 1/2 of todays roomette. Very small area at night where your feet go into in the little cave area. Very hard to explain, but if you saw one you would understand.
Certainly looks smaller than a Amtrak roomette, was looking at doing a trip on the Canadian next year sometime, maybe a bedroom is the way to go, 3 nights in there might be a bit poor.....
Hmm, bit hopeless if you have a "need" during the night and the bed is over the pan! :blink:I think the bed over there on the right pulls out over the comode and chair.
I cannot speak for the duplex roomette as I never rode in one.Hmm, bit hopeless if you have a "need" during the night and the bed is over the pan! :blink:I think the bed over there on the right pulls out over the comode and chair.
Wow a very informative thread!
I didn't realize there were still sections on the Canadian. Of course regardless of what berth you bought I wouldn't be sitting in my seat! There's a dome car!
Scroll about half-way through this document and you will find a very good diagram of a Duplex Roomette set up for both daytime and night.In the VIA rail blurb, I assume that a berth for 1 is much the same as a roomette? Whats the deal with the some of the berths you have to step up to? How does that work, as I assume the sleepers are not double deckers?
You have that problem even in the single rooms in the manor cars, which do not overlap like in the Chateau cars. You do have to push the bed up into the wall to get to the commode.Hmm, bit hopeless if you have a "need" during the night and the bed is over the pan! :blink:I think the bed over there on the right pulls out over the comode and chair.
That resembles a Slumbercoach:Here is a not so good picture of the duplex end of a sleeper.
As I understand it, the person who looks out the bottom window, when their bed is made up has a little cave like area under the floor of the person who looks out the top window. They are in two separate distinct rooms that "overlap" each other in the night time configuration. The feet of one person go over/under the head of the other person and vice versa. During the day, there is one seat area about the size of 1/2 of todays roomette. Very small area at night where your feet go into in the little cave area. Very hard to explain, but if you saw one you would understand.
Yep DET63 it does resemble a slumbercoach. Check back on post #6 and you will see that I anticipated the the possible confusion. It is interesting the types of rooms which used to exist and the numerous floor plans.That resembles a Slumbercoach:Here is a not so good picture of the duplex end of a sleeper.
As I understand it, the person who looks out the bottom window, when their bed is made up has a little cave like area under the floor of the person who looks out the top window. They are in two separate distinct rooms that "overlap" each other in the night time configuration. The feet of one person go over/under the head of the other person and vice versa. During the day, there is one seat area about the size of 1/2 of todays roomette. Very small area at night where your feet go into in the little cave area. Very hard to explain, but if you saw one you would understand.
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