"bad ordered"

[Golden grrl]

I've seen several mentions to the term "bad-ordered" particularly in talking about a consist. Could someone help this novice by defining just what that term means?

 

[ehbowen]

"Bad Order" means that the equipment in question has a fault which renders it unsafe to operate, and so it has to be taken out of service until repaired. If it happens in the yard they may be able to substitute equivalent equipment; if it happens on the road the passengers have to be moved to another car and the car cut out of the train and left at the nearest convenient siding for a repair crew to handle.

 

[Tumbleweed]

Not in service, usually due to mechanical failure

 

[Golden grrl]

Thanks, that all makes sense.

 

[the_traveler]

"Bad ordered" can range from something as simple as the heat or AC not working to something as major as a window broken!

 

[me_little_me]

"Bad Order" means that the equipment in question has a fault which renders it unsafe to operate, and so it has to be taken out of service until repaired. If it happens in the yard they may be able to substitute equivalent equipment; if it happens on the road the passengers have to be moved to another car and the car cut out of the train and left at the nearest convenient siding for a repair crew to handle.

"Bad ordered" can range from something as simple as the heat or AC not working to something as major as a window broken!

BIG difference! You don't need to remove the car and leave it at a siding if the A/C stopped working.

So can someone really answer the question of Golden grrl?

 

[ehbowen]

"Bad Order" means that the equipment in question has a fault which renders it unsafe to operate, and so it has to be taken out of service until repaired. If it happens in the yard they may be able to substitute equivalent equipment; if it happens on the road the passengers have to be moved to another car and the car cut out of the train and left at the nearest convenient siding for a repair crew to handle.

"Bad ordered" can range from something as simple as the heat or AC not working to something as major as a window broken!

BIG difference! You don't need to remove the car and leave it at a siding if the A/C stopped working.

So can someone really answer the question of Golden grrl?

It is really a general term meaning that the equipment is not suitable for operation. True, out on the road they wouldn't cut out and leave a car behind for broken A/C...but in the yard, if a suitable replacement was available, they would. In both cases they would probably say that the car was "bad ordered".

 

[Devil's Advocate]

Unless I'm mistaken a "bad order" refers to the paperwork that identifies the inoperative or malfunctioning status. A car or locomotive that has a bad order in effect is said to be "bad ordered." In this situation the car or locomotive is not verified as suitable for revenue service. However, even if a piece of equipment is bad ordered it may still be possible to operate it to the point of reaching the necessary repair facilities. This would be the case for a broken window or HVAC. In the case of a broken wheel or truck assembly the car would be completely inoperative and would need to be cut out from the rest of the train and left behind. Before the car could be moved again it would need to either be fixed on the spot or placed on a flat bed car or low-boy truck to be transferred to a repair shop.

 

[Bob Dylan]

"Bad ordered" can range from something as simple as the heat or AC not working to something as major as a window broken!

Or the Swimming Pool or Hot Tub leaking in the Penthouse!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: