I have as of tonight cleaned up many of the more negative posts in this thread and I will continue to do so as needed. I am however not going to close this thread at this time either.
I am going to ask that
everyone please be civil and polite in this discussion. Whether one believes Lucifer or not, is not a reason for insults, impolite remarks, or out and out criticism. While I can't prove or disprove Lucifier's story, I will say that I have learned through a clandestine source that someone (no name was listed in the report) was indeed thrown off the train in question in Provo.
So there is certainly a very good possibilty that it was Lucifer who was thrown off the train. Since none of us were there, we also only have his version of the story and the events leading up to his being thrown off the train. And as I said in another recent post, there is always two sides to every story.
I don't say this because I dis-believe Lucifer or because I do believe him. But it would certainly appear that something did go wrong on that train and that he was indeed thrown off the train.
So again I ask everyone to please be civil to one another. I'll remind people that Lucifer has responded politely to those who have responded politely to him and his posts. He has only responded negatively to those who responded negatively to him.
This forum is not supposed to be only about the good things that happen at Amtrak. This forum is supposed to be a place where people can learn about Amtrak. It is supposed to be a place where people can come to ask questions about Amtrak. It is supposed to be a place to discuss the good and the bad regarding Amtrak. And it is supposed to be a place where we can have fun and civil conversation.
Remember, a forum is only as rich as its members.
I for one, think that we need everyone of our members.