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That period in August perhaps interleague baseball games between the Cubs and White Sox -or- Milwaukee Brewers ?

Least we not forget that the Borealis will be a commuter train of sorts - transportation point to point Whereas the Empire Builder is a long distance and scenic mode of travel with sleeping/dining accommodations Night and day - day and night a whole nother type of travel between the two trains...

In my not so humble opinion - - - Keep it simple - there is no reason to operate the Borealis trains with a push pull split and separate cars at Milwaukee - nothing like screwing with the basic planned train and achieving more delays and other mechanical snafu meshing cars and locomotives* (I...

It could also be deadheaded attached to the EB #7 the night before. Time being of essence I don't think the consist will be operated as a revenue trip - although some of us wouldn't mind riding a deadheading ferry trip.

The MSP Lounge is very spartan to say the least. 3 or 4 sleeper passengers and it is at its limits. A minute fraction of the space of the CUS Lounge No restroom facility within the lounge. Train announcements may not be heard. With City events may make it difficult to use the Lounge. On a plus...

At SPUD there are two tracks for two trains to be serviced simultaneously. In the unlikely event of the EB 7 & 8 are both delayed at MSP - there is a dead end track that the Borealis could use extending to the Union Depot Rail View and Picnic area - Reference Google map...

At its origin/destination (Chicago-St Paul) there is no need for the push pull consist. There is plenty of WYE turn around space to work with and time to turn the train for the next day service. No need for adding or reduction of cars causing delay in scheduling. Hope Amtrak keeps this simple !

Don't discount the boarding traffic at Milwaukee and other Empire Builder stops destined for MSP. Yes there will be off days when the Borealis will not be anywhere near capacity. And look around the corner - the airlines are cutting reducing service to small Wisconsin cities - the train fares...

Are all 4 Horizon cars just coaches (maybe 1 a cafe) what about a baggage car ?

For those who have ideas of taking the Borealis or Empire Builder one-way or round trip the full trip or just pieces and parts here are their Schedules - Of course "Good Luck" with the host railroad allowing a timely operation. CHICAGO - ST. PAUL AMTRAK 1333 Chicago, IL - Union...

Starting Inaugural date both directions Tuesday May 21 two train sets Briefly: TRAIN #1340 BOREALIS - TO CHI 11:50 AM 19:14 PM TRAIN #1333 BOREALIS - TO MSP 11:05 AM 18:29 PM COACH $41 BUSINESS $98 Did a test booking - Amtrak - accepting reservation after payment

Google map reference: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.658193,-63.6244786,310m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu Turn table is centered in image - zooom out for relative distance to Halifax VIA station Appears that only 1 car at a time could be turned Most turn tables were set up for steam locomotives...

Reversing seats can be done easily - case in point the Alaska RR Gold Star bi-level cars. While the Alaska RR operation (ANC-FAI) does not need to reverse its consists - sometimes seating for 4 is great for a family or a small group - a simple lever at the seat bottom when stepped on can...

OK - the WYE is visible as a wye but something about the tracks (roadbed) leaves much to be desired. A few years ago I was on a NCL cruise ship and observed the Ocean at the Halifax station with its Park type tail car at the station door +/- 20 cars to the locomotives almost out of sight. At...

I have Google map Windsor Junction and having trouble finding that WYE - there is an old CN turn table map center: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6605509,-63.6243677,1705m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu Zooom IN- OUT to see more less detail - - - - - I did find sidings that the locomotives could...

Maybe referring to the east end of the Ocean travel - - - ? At Halifax the Ocean was turned in a container freight yard for the next day trip. But the yard got too busy with too many containers curtailing that reversal. A suitable WYE point is not found for kilometers/miles - - - requiring a...

OK FOLKS I BLEW IT - APOLOGY - - - - - That last 90 degree turn on the Grand Staircase was my disorientated error ! Jackson Street does NOT have access to the Metropolitan Lounge ! It is the Canal Street side that has the closed enter/exit. Reference this photo/image by Scott Lovenberg of the...

It is working for me - just pulled up the (Mid)- West section: http://dixielandsoftware.net/cgi-bin/getmap.pl?mapname=West

I am not familiar with that Canal (Concourse) entrance which appears to be in an interior corridor. The one I was referencing has windows to Jackson St and the entrance from same is signed closed to be use only as an emergency exit. The Lounge room on the 2nd floor has huge Pennsy railroad...

A picture diagram photo image explains it better - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.878778,-87.6404608,281m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu CUS is in the center of the image - note that CUS is actually 2 blocks - the west block is the Great Hall Metropolitan Lounge and the east block with trains...