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Peter Pan, aside from being a horrible name for a bus company, is not the tidiest of operations either.
Peter Pan is a good name for a flighty bus company :lol: :help: :lol: :lol: :wub:Peter Pan, aside from being a horrible name for a bus company, is not the tidiest of operations either.
Do they all wear strange pointy caps? :blink:Peter Pan is a good name for a flighty bus company :lol: :help: :lol: :lol: :wub:Peter Pan, aside from being a horrible name for a bus company, is not the tidiest of operations either.
Aloha
Bolt Bus is indeed a joint venture owned by Greyhound and Peter Pan who's mission is to fight back against the cut-rate street corner operators, by providing modern equipment and well trained drivers, and good garage facility, but with otherwise low overhead, by not using terminals. They use a similar fare strategy as Megabus.Isn't BoltBus part of Greyhound? If so I don't see why Greyhound would have issues with it using their terminals & such.
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Not quite, and at least they got rid of those horrendous green uniforms a few years ago. The name of the company....?Do they all wear strange pointy caps? :blink:Peter Pan is a good name for a flighty bus company :lol: :help: :lol: :lol: :wub:Peter Pan, aside from being a horrible name for a bus company, is not the tidiest of operations either.
Aloha
All they had to do was enact a city ordnance forcing the carriers into the municipal terminal at South Station. Of course, it helps of there is sufficient room there for more carriers.Agree with the concerns of Megabus (and evidently BoltBus, not as familiar with their operation) and their lack of city terminals.Megabus and Boltbus will either eventually have to raise prices or go out of business. They both have experienced multiple safety violation citations, they are annoying their host cities by creating "stations" where there wasn't meant to be one, creating traffic jams both on the road and on the sidewalk, the professionalism and training of their drivers is in question...
How much longer till the cities tell these bus operators that they have to either use the terminal or get out?
Here in Pittsburgh, Megabus set up shop across the street from the brand new Greyhound terminal, in a "no stopping" zone. I'm particularly bitter about this one because it is right outside of my office... so now I have to wade through a bunch of people just to get to my front door.
Apparently, Megabus riders were hanging out in the bus terminal and taking up space for the Greyhound (and other carriers) riders.
Megabus was told to move and now they pick up and drop off 3 blocks away under the convention center. While that is an improvement for traffic control reasons, I don't see the convention center being too happy with that as their main entrance is right there.
They are really a test of wills.... how much can a company abuse their customers in exchange for low prices.
Megabus and BoltBus - The New Class of Low Class.
I'm curious how Boston went about forcing such operators to use South Station bus terminal. Is this a model other cities could follow? (I suppose it helped that Boston has a central bus terminal used by multiple bus operators, not individual stations only used by Greyhound or Burlington Trailways or whatever.)
I'm not sure what Boston did, but NY City's City Council is currently working on a bill that will very heavily regulate the Bolt's & Mega's of the world, as well as the Chinese services. If they don't use normal bus facilities, then they will be told where they can and can't stop, and they'll have to pay the city fees for those priviledges. That will almost certainly force them to raise prices as they won't be able to freeload off of anyone any more here in NYC.I'm curious how Boston went about forcing such operators to use South Station bus terminal. Is this a model other cities could follow? (I suppose it helped that Boston has a central bus terminal used by multiple bus operators, not individual stations only used by Greyhound or Burlington Trailways or whatever.)
It's interesting that many years before the current epidemic of street corner operators, a company that had started running out of the Port decided to save money and move out, loading at several MTA bus stops. That company is Hampton Jitney, and they provide a first class operation nonetheless.I'm not sure what Boston did, but NY City's City Council is currently working on a bill that will very heavily regulate the Bolt's & Mega's of the world, as well as the Chinese services. If they don't use normal bus facilities, then they will be told where they can and can't stop, and they'll have to pay the city fees for those priviledges. That will almost certainly force them to raise prices as they won't be able to freeload off of anyone any more here in NYC.I'm curious how Boston went about forcing such operators to use South Station bus terminal. Is this a model other cities could follow? (I suppose it helped that Boston has a central bus terminal used by multiple bus operators, not individual stations only used by Greyhound or Burlington Trailways or whatever.)
And with the several recent, fatal in two cases, accidents of buses like this, it's a pretty safe bet that this bill will pass.
Not too many years ago Megabus used to stop immediately outside of Chicago Union Station, causing major congestion on that street, not to mention encouraging Megabus passengers to wait inside CUS. Of course, Chicago only forced them to move one block away, rather than to a particular bus station. Not sure if the city of Chicago has charged Megabus any sort of fee for the street-side bus stop.I'm not sure what Boston did, but NY City's City Council is currently working on a bill that will very heavily regulate the Bolt's & Mega's of the world, as well as the Chinese services. If they don't use normal bus facilities, then they will be told where they can and can't stop, and they'll have to pay the city fees for those priviledges. That will almost certainly force them to raise prices as they won't be able to freeload off of anyone any more here in NYC.I'm curious how Boston went about forcing such operators to use South Station bus terminal. Is this a model other cities could follow? (I suppose it helped that Boston has a central bus terminal used by multiple bus operators, not individual stations only used by Greyhound or Burlington Trailways or whatever.)
And with the several recent, fatal in two cases, accidents of buses like this, it's a pretty safe bet that this bill will pass.
The island of Manhattan will thank them, the rate that it sinks into the sea will decrease the sooner those buses park where they belong... At the bottom of the Hudson.I'm not sure what Boston did, but NY City's City Council is currently working on a bill that will very heavily regulate the Bolt's & Mega's of the world, as well as the Chinese services. If they don't use normal bus facilities, then they will be told where they can and can't stop, and they'll have to pay the city fees for those priviledges. That will almost certainly force them to raise prices as they won't be able to freeload off of anyone any more here in NYC.I'm curious how Boston went about forcing such operators to use South Station bus terminal. Is this a model other cities could follow? (I suppose it helped that Boston has a central bus terminal used by multiple bus operators, not individual stations only used by Greyhound or Burlington Trailways or whatever.)
And with the several recent, fatal in two cases, accidents of buses like this, it's a pretty safe bet that this bill will pass.
You do have some valid concerns. Perhaps it would be better for you to try a much shorter bus trip before commiting to the one you mention, just to see how you fare?I've been wanting to ride the Texas Eagle round trip between Chicago and Los Angeles, but the cost of a sleeper is way out of reach -- at least both ways. Since I've never traveled long distance on a bus, I've been entertaining the idea of taking Greyhound from Chicago to Los Angeles, then taking the Texas Eagle home.
Most westbound Greyhound schedules require three transfers and I was thinking of arriving in LA late the night before or very early in the morning of my return train trip. However, I'm afraid that if just one of those transfers imploded, I might not reach LA in time to catch the Eagle. It also doesn't help that friends and family (none of whom has ridden Greyhound, of course) are convinced that even a grown adult male would be robbed, groped or worse.
Has anybody made the Chicago-to-Los Angeles trip lately on Greyhound? I do enjoy meeting and talking to people and am not an elitist who's put off by the realities of bus travel. I wouldn't be able to use my CPAP device on the bus, so I do worry that being a pretty bad snorer, I'd annoy nearby passengers.
I've seen plenty in LA the times I've been there previously. If I have time, I'd definitely grab a bite at Philippe, though. Thanks for the idea about the common stop!You sure are planning a 'marathon' trip...no time to sightsee or otherwise in LA?
One thing if you are still going to go through with it....If you make your last leg over the same route as the train, and you think you might misconnect at LA, you might be able to get off at a common stop prior to LA to connect instead....
They Greyline uses the Pittsburgh bus terminal, so they aren't causing traffic and pedestrian issues.http://www.busride.org/ is the Greyline which runs from Pittsburgh PA to Morgantown WV....This picked up where Greyhound abandoned a line
Just heard a quote from "Peter Pantuso" on NPR a moment ago, guess what HIS TITLE is? CEO of the American Bus Association! I thought FOR SURE he must have been the founder of the Peter Pan Bus Line, but noooooooooo..What a coincidence thou.Not quite, and at least they got rid of those horrendous green uniforms a few years ago. The name of the company....?Do they all wear strange pointy caps? :blink:Peter Pan is a good name for a flighty bus company :lol: :help: :lol: :lol: :wub:Peter Pan, aside from being a horrible name for a bus company, is not the tidiest of operations either.
Aloha
Well it was founded by Peter Picnelly, so take it from there.....
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