Las Vegas monorail

[Green Maned Lion]

To live in Las Vegas you'd have to be a fool. Present company not excepted.

 

[MrFSS]

Indianapolis also has a Monorail http://www.google.co...=og&sa=N&tab=wi that runs Between Methodist Hospital and Purdue.

It is NOT a monorail - it is a bi-track people mover. And it doesn't run to Purdue, which is 60 miles away. It runs between the IUPUI medical school and Methodist Hospital whichare 1.5 miles apart. The only good thing about it is its free to ride for anyone..

 

[the_traveler]

What kind of documentation did your friend show to prove residency? This pricing system is like hotel taxes, soak the people who can't vote.

The same can be said about many places too.

In RI, the state beaches charged IIRC $7 for RI residents for parking and $15 for out of state drivers. (It has gone up this year to I think $12/$30.) I think it's fair, because CT or MA voters did not purchase the beach or maintain the parking lot. What is not fair is a car rental tax or hotel tax of 10% to build a convention center/stadium/civic center/etc... in _____, which you will never have a reason to use!

 

[alanh]

Las Vegas Monorail's survival in doubt

The Las Vegas Monorail has filed a bankruptcy reorganization plan that would wipe out more than 90 percent of its $658.8 million debt but leaves hurdles to continued operation until the end of the decade.
Investors with $451.5 million in senior bonds, which were sold in 2000 to purchase the original monorail and expand it to 3.9 miles, would exchange their holdings for three sets of IOUs totaling $44.5 million. Each set will have different terms.

Rest of the article here.

 

[Anderson]

Alas, even though Walt intended the monorail to serve as a demonstration of something viable for the future transportation needs of cities, far too many people ended up equating monorails with amusement part rides. They don't see it as viable transportation, they see it as something you ride when going to an amusement park.

A quibble: I don't think folks see a monorail as something you ride when going TO an amusement park, but rather as something you ride AT an amusement park. Had Wally been more serious and/or visionary about the demonstration aspect he might have built - or lobbied for and supported - a monorail line from, say, L.A. Union Station TO his Tragic Kingdom, doing double duty as public transit and a theme park customer delivery system. That woulda been a REAL demonstration of monorail viability.

Aloha

When I worked in the Park, early 60's, Walt did try to extend a leg to LA. He was once quoted that he did not care if it went by "that other park", that even if they build the station no one would get off there. What killed the effort was the 2 counties wanted ownership after 7, and 10 years. Walt supposedly said he was ok with ownership going to the counties after recovered his investment.

In rethinking dates it was some time between 63 to 67 as that's when I was in college in Orange county.

...so if I get this straight, Walt would put up the money and then the counties would take it over? *grumbles* And people wonder why private investment doesn't flow into these projects.

I guess the shame, then, is that Walt didn't manage to set up something going to/from the Orlando Airport or train station (I'm saying "airport" first because of when Disney World got going...though I also wonder if Walt couldn't have "done a deal" of some sort with SAL to arrange a station on that side of town) in the Disney World master plan. At least in the case of the Florida project, Disney was going to be very much in the driver's seat on cutting deals (look what they did in getting Reedy Creek set aside)...much more than in the case of Disneyland (which was, in many ways, just another project out in southern CA).

Then again, there's a reason I made more than a few comments to friends calling the FL bullet train "Disney's Ghost".

 

[Steve4031]

What are the alternatives for getting up and down the strip if the someone wants to get to a location not served by the monorail.

 

[Bob Dylan]

What are the alternatives for getting up and down the strip if the someone wants to get to a location not served by the monorail.

There are City Busses but they are Very Slow and Very Crowded!! Also any kind of Vehicle (Rent Car/Limo?Taxi etc.) is Slower than Walking,the Traffic is terrible on the strip Day and Night!! (its a long way from one end to the other especially when it's 100+). If you walk watch out for the Porno Flyer Distributors, Hustlers and Beggars of all Types! Las Vegas is Great if youre Rich, it sucks when youre Broke or Poor! Winners didnt pay for the Taj Mahal Palaces and so Called "Free Comps" End Up Costing Much More thasn if you Pay for them Yourself! :excl: :excl: :excl: :help: :help: :help:

 

[WhoozOn1st]

What are the alternatives for getting up and down the strip if the someone wants to get to a location not served by the monorail.

A cab ride using back streets roughly parallel to the strip can be pretty quick and fairly inexpensive. Cabbies usually have to be instructed, cuz of course they'd like to sit in strip traffic and run up the meter.

Between Excalibur and Mandalay Bay, stopping at Luxor en route, there are free cable-driven trams (not to be confused with the monorail).

 

[Anderson]

What are the alternatives for getting up and down the strip if the someone wants to get to a location not served by the monorail.

There are City Busses but they are Very Slow and Very Crowded!! Also any kind of Vehicle (Rent Car/Limo?Taxi etc.) is Slower than Walking,the Traffic is terrible on the strip Day and Night!! (its a long way from one end to the other especially when it's 100+). If you walk watch out for the Porno Flyer Distributors, Hustlers and Beggars of all Types! Las Vegas is Great if youre Rich, it sucks when youre Broke or Poor! Winners didnt pay for the Taj Mahal Palaces and so Called "Free Comps" End Up Costing Much More thasn if you Pay for them Yourself! :excl: :excl: :excl: :help: :help: :help:

Oh, but winners did pay for them...through all of the suckers they drew in. As odd as it sounds, Vegas needs 10% of folks to win in order to get in the other 90% in to lose. They can't do business on just losers (as much as they might like to)...they've got to have someone win sooner or later to keep the losers around.

 

[The Journalist]

What are the alternatives for getting up and down the strip if the someone wants to get to a location not served by the monorail.

There's two bus services on the strip-the rather slow but reasonably functional double-decker "Deuce" service and the "Gold Line," formerly ACES, a well-implemented bus rapid transit service that only makes a few stops along the Strip. The Gold Line is probably the best way to get to the downtown area and Fremont Street from the Strip; if you plan on using the monorail in general take it to the Sahara station and the Gold Line stops right underneath the station, unlike the rest of the monorail which is in the back of everything and is unconnected to anything else. This also means you're avoiding using the bus on Las Vegas Blvd, where it can get held up. The buses are also way less crowded after Sahara. The Deuce and Gold Line use a proof of payment system; there's ticket vending machines at practically all the Gold Line stops. A 24 hour pass is $7. You will get fare-inspected on nearly every trip on the Strip.