I think you misunderstand the question. I am not referring to the turn around at the end of the line. I am referring to the seasonal change in the location of the sleepers.
Location of the sleeping cars on the CZ
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KmH
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Demand is higher for coach seats in the winter and Amtrak sometimes needs to add a coach car to the consist.
Coach passengers are not allowed in sleeper cars.
So a coach on the end behind a couple of sleepers would necessitate coach passengers walking through 2 sleeper cars to get the the dining car or the SSL.
Or suffer the added hassle and time of putting adding a coach car to the middle of the consist.
Solution - put all the coach cars on the end during the short high demand for coach seats winter months, and then put the sleepers on the end when you're more likely to need to add a sleeper car, which is the rest of the year.
Coach passengers are not allowed in sleeper cars.
So a coach on the end behind a couple of sleepers would necessitate coach passengers walking through 2 sleeper cars to get the the dining car or the SSL.
Or suffer the added hassle and time of putting adding a coach car to the middle of the consist.
Solution - put all the coach cars on the end during the short high demand for coach seats winter months, and then put the sleepers on the end when you're more likely to need to add a sleeper car, which is the rest of the year.
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Tennessee Traveler
Conductor
To answer your first question -- Yes, dining car is always next to the sleepers and the lounge car is next to the coaches no matter which are in the front or on the rear. Also, when I rode in April the sleeping car attendant said that when they add the third sleeper this year 2017 the sleepers will most likely remain in the front instead of the rear as in past years. I guess we will just have to keep watching mid to late May to see what does or does not happen.
Thirdrail7
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They typically flat switch the cars.
Rockymtnchris
Train Attendant
5 CZ train on 4-20-17 had
Engine 1
Engine 2
Baggage
Crew?
Sleeper 1
Sleeper 2
Diner
SSL/Cafe
Coach 1-where I was.
Coach 2
6 train on return was even longer. I'll sort it out after I get pics loaded to Photobucket.
Engine 1
Engine 2
Baggage
Crew?
Sleeper 1
Sleeper 2
Diner
SSL/Cafe
Coach 1-where I was.
Coach 2
6 train on return was even longer. I'll sort it out after I get pics loaded to Photobucket.
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4/26 and 4/27 #6 had 2 sleepers forward and three coaches rear.
KmH
Engineer
The Transition Dormitory car is mostly for crew, but also has revenue Roomettes.
There is an Accessible room on the lower level while the upper level is all roomettes (no Bedrooms).
On our last two CZ trips to DEN in August 2015 and 2016; the three sleepers were in the rear, one car up was the dining car, after that was a coach (or two) and then you entered the sightseer lounge car. I would expect it to be the same this year when we make that trip again in 2017.
Rockymtnchris
Train Attendant
My 6 train on return CZ trip...
Tennessee Traveler
Conductor
Just noticed that the May 25 CZ departing Chicago has THREE sleepers and they are STILL AT THE FRONT so it's looking like my SCA was correct in saying the move of the sleepers to the end of the Zephyr may not happen in 2017. If the change is not made by June 1 or even Memorial Day, I do not expect the sleepers to be moved to the end of the consist. The train departing Chicago today will still be operating as number 6 on Memorial Day.
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KnightRail
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It's actually starting with tomorrow's(5/26) departures. It will take a few days to switch all the sets, should be complete by Sunday.
