Green Maned Lion
Engineer
I frankly liked the original Amlounge configuration. The diner lite not so much. An Amlounge style configuration (booths on one end, tables and chairs on the other) in a Viewliner she'll would make a nice lounge.
I'm confused by this statement.Furthermore, given the general lack of resources, given some money can be found for new cars, I would not spend it on spiffy lounge cars. I'd spend it to get revenue earning cars and basic food service cars (which might indeed look like Amfleet II kind of arrangement but perhaps in a Viewliner shell - sort of like the Viewliner Diner slightly rearranged)
Gawd Dammit GML, I totally forgot that Amtrak had those. THAT's what I'm talking about.Check this out, Nathaniel. http://www.trainweb.org/Tomsrailtravels/Amfleet%202%20lounge%20interiors.htm
The original lounge had that lounge section. I prefer that to bench style booths. It encourages interaction and reduces "booth hogging". Put that layout in a Viewliner with no bathroom and a cafe snack bar in one end and you'd have a nice lounge that would look nice and probably cost little more than the booth and table layout.
Are you talking about this?Check this out, Nathaniel. http://www.trainweb.org/Tomsrailtravels/Amfleet%202%20lounge%20interiors.htm
The original lounge had that lounge section. I prefer that to bench style booths. It encourages interaction and reduces "booth hogging".
Why would they remove anything?Gawd Dammit GML, I totally forgot that Amtrak had those. THAT's what I'm talking about.Check this out, Nathaniel. http://www.trainweb.org/Tomsrailtravels/Amfleet%202%20lounge%20interiors.htm
The original lounge had that lounge section. I prefer that to bench style booths. It encourages interaction and reduces "booth hogging". Put that layout in a Viewliner with no bathroom and a cafe snack bar in one end and you'd have a nice lounge that would look nice and probably cost little more than the booth and table layout.
JIS, Those riding for "basic transportation" (and it is prolly the bulk of travelers, IDK) won't give two hoots about an lounge, no-lounge, or even ultra lounge. But I think those that CHOOSE Amtrak for the experience, would much prefer a trip with a lounge car, nicely appointed no less.
Your position seems to state that "....Non Rev cars don'r really do anything to bring revenue to the train.........." when indeed, they do!
Imagine if they removed the SSL from the Western Trains?
Having no lounge/cafe car at all would probably make a substantial difference in revenues on (for example) the Palmetto or Pennsylvanian.whether you have a lounge or not is unlikely to make a huge difference in revenues.
That is one of the cars that was converted to a smoker, the glass enclosure and an additional ventilation fan. Most of the work was done at 14th St. The enclosed area was sometimes so thick with smoke that you could barely see. It was nicknamed the "penalty box".That looks like the smoking lounge in the Amlounges that were converted to so called Smokers.
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