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#41 cpotisch

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:22 AM

Hey all. I am still hoping for a special / rare locomotive on the San Joaquin. If anyone has any info on where any locomotive is, like an Amtrak California dash 8 or a special phase p42, then please post it in this chat.

There are six special Genesis locomotives in the fleet - #156, #130, #145, #184, and #822 (the last two are the "Veterans" P42 and the Phase III P40). Then you have the two Amtrak California Dash 8s. As I understand it, the Genesises only run on the San Joaquins when there is a shortage of California locomotives, which there currently doesn't seem to be. But even if a "Genie" did end up on the San Joaquin, you'd still have to hope that out of the 202 P42s and P40s on the roster, it was using one of those six. And that's not to mention the fact that it's a commuter train which runs so frequently that it's hard to figure out what consist is in use for what particular train.

 

I can tell you that if anyone here knows when a special loco will be operating on the San Joaquin, they will most likely post it, but I just wouldn't get my hopes up.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:23 AM

Here are four threads on AU that follow the whereabouts of the anniversary locomotives. Hopefully that's some help.

I do want to emphasize that you can check those threads for updates on the four Anniversary P42s, since anyone who has any notable info is very likely to post it there. :)

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:17 PM

 

Hey all. I am still hoping for a special / rare locomotive on the San Joaquin. If anyone has any info on where any locomotive is, like an Amtrak California dash 8 or a special phase p42, then please post it in this chat.

There are six special Genesis locomotives in the fleet - #156, #130, #145, #184, and #822 (the last two are the "Veterans" P42 and the Phase III P40). Then you have the two Amtrak California Dash 8s. As I understand it, the Genesises only run on the San Joaquins when there is a shortage of California locomotives, which there currently doesn't seem to be. But even if a "Genie" did end up on the San Joaquin, you'd still have to hope that out of the 202 P42s and P40s on the roster, it was using one of those six. And that's not to mention the fact that it's a commuter train which runs so frequently that it's hard to figure out what consist is in use for what particular train.

 

I can tell you that if anyone here knows when a special loco will be operating on the San Joaquin, they will most likely post it, but I just wouldn't get my hopes up.

 

 

I remember the 2012 derailment of the San Joaquin when a truck just plowed into the train at 50 MPH at a crossing.  The photos clearly showed a Genesis.

 

https://www.usatoday...ig-rig/1606941/

 

amtrakderail-16_9.jpg

 

Other photos showed it was locomotive #94.  How it managed to stay up at that angle was pretty remarkable.



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:42 PM

Being that it's a corridor train and now that there are enough California locomotives to cover it.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:58 PM

In theory none of the California or North Carolina corridor trains should be pulling from the national network fleet any more. The Midwest might have a few non Charger runs left. But there can't be that many remaining.
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Posted 15 June 2018 - 09:10 PM

Wow! Thanks for all the support guys! I know you guys will keep me updated with the latest "news" on the San Joaquin. 👍🏼👍🏼

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 07:01 AM

The site https://heritageunits.com/tracks all the special locomotives railroads use, it's user updated so still isn't 100% accurate; but should give you an idea of where things are. You can also sign up for email alerts when things are near you.

 

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 02:40 PM

Thanks for that link!!

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 05:11 PM

You guys were saying there is no need for p42 locos on the San Joaquin because there are enough Amtrak California locos right????

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 05:15 PM

You guys were saying there is no need for p42 locos on the San Joaquin because there are enough Amtrak California locos right????

Yep.

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 05:21 PM

Well, I just saw 717 with a p42 #60

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 05:28 PM

[quote name="Guest" post="759472" timestamp="1529187712"]Well, I just saw 717 with a p42 #60[/quote]
Well it seems like that train needed a P42.

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 05:36 PM

Oh. Well then okay

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 06:42 PM

My point is that if a train needs a loco, and they don’t have an Amtrak Cali one on hand, it might end up with the P42. It’s not that common but it happens.

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 08:16 PM

How often do you think that it occurs?
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Posted 16 June 2018 - 09:47 PM

My point is that if a train needs a loco, and they don’t have an Amtrak Cali one on hand, it might end up with the P42. It’s not that common but it happens.

It's changing now with the delivery of the new locomotives but, it was not unusual to see a P42 on their trains. It is still pretty common to see a P42 on the Pacific Surfliner as none of the new locomotives are in revenue service yet.


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