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#41 jis

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:03 AM

What long straightways south of DC do you speak of? Inquiring minds want to know. Or was this all just in jest? ;)



#42 Ziv

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:24 AM

When I rode the Crescent it seemed like most of the trackage between DC and Atlanta was straighter than the NE Regional from DC to Boston. More so in VA than in the Carolinas, but it seemed like there were more straightaways on the Crescent.  There were tight spots between DC and Atlanta, but they seemed to be less frequent than on the NE Regional.  I could be way wrong, I only rode them once each, but that is what I remember.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:38 AM

To move even further into "it will never happen" territory, if you had to buy/trade land to straighten the track, it would cost a lost less to do so south of Richmond, as opposed to trying to do it on the NEC.    LOL!

Yeah, I know, never gonna happen.

It would be cool if it could though, because it gets you two birds with one stone. You could possibly extend the life of the healthiest/least worn out half of the Acela fleet AND you could extend the relatively high speed section of the Amtrak network by 600+ miles.

On edit: And I am not sure if the stations between DC and Atlanta have level boarding. Probably not, if memory serves. So that is one more problem I didn't think about.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 08:38 AM

Getting back to the appointment of Westmoreland, I don't think that the sky is falling or that Amtrak will be out of business anytime soon.  Westmoreland is just another political shill that uses the system. Point is that if Amtrak goes down, he's out of the Ivory Tower.  How good or bad for the system he will be remains to be seen.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:18 AM

Given the fact that the POTUS is a populist, not a conservative, you never know what he will back or oppose.


It's true you never know what Trump will say next, but most of what he has actually done is easily predicted with a simple concept called Inverse Obama. All that fleeting populist talk about big government spending on modernized infrastructure and high speed rail has gone absolutely nowhere.  Instead he's advocated reducing revenue and draining civilian funding in order to dump even more money on the world's most expensive military.

 

Getting back to the appointment of Westmoreland, I don't think that the sky is falling or that Amtrak will be out of business anytime soon.  Westmoreland is just another political shill that uses the system. Point is that if Amtrak goes down, he's out of the Ivory Tower.  How good or bad for the system he will be remains to be seen.

 

Who said the sky was falling or that Amtrak would be out of business?  My concern is that with executives like this Amtrak service will continue to deteriorate and eventually turn away all but the most ardent supporters.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:28 AM

Who said the sky was falling or that Amtrak would be out of business?  My concern is that with executives like this Amtrak service will continue to deteriorate and eventually turn away all but the most ardent supporters.

 

So, with few exceptions, that makes it pretty much business as usual for Amtrak since 1971.  



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

 

Who said the sky was falling or that Amtrak would be out of business?  My concern is that with executives like this Amtrak service will continue to deteriorate and eventually turn away all but the most ardent supporters.

 

So, with few exceptions, that makes it pretty much business as usual for Amtrak since 1971. 

 

Yes, I'm concerned that Amtrak will continue to limp on down the tracks like a blind hobo on crutches. I've never fully understood why pointing out Amtrak's history of operational impotence was considered some sort of profound insight.  Just because it's always been on life support doesn't mean I don't want it to improve (or reinvent itself or make way for something better).


Edited by Devil's Advocate, 16 October 2017 - 03:19 PM.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:02 PM

 

 

 

Yes, I'm concerned that Amtrak will continue to limp on down the tracks like a blind hobo on crutches.  I've never fully understood why pointing out Amtrak's history of operational impotence was considered some sort of profound insight.

 

 

Love that image. Sad it's so apt.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:37 PM

Level boarding south of WASH ?  Even the platforms for going south at WASH are low.  Now south of WASH ?  Do not remember if the interior platforms at Richmond  main street  (RVM)  were high level or not ?  The new Raleigh station high level or future HSR platforms high level ?  Roanoke starting Oct 31 are high level.  New Charlotte station planned do not know if high level  ?  The new Miami  (MIC) station high level ? 


Edited by west point, 16 October 2017 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 05:40 PM

You know, this whole discussion about South of Washington has nothing to do with Westmoreland. Why are you carrying on with it here?


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:04 PM

Because it is more interesting than talking about a political hack like Westmoreland? And that said hack might, possibly, have an interest in sending a little consideration to his former constituents, who are South of Washington. And that this possibility would make Amtrak a bit more fun? Stranger things have happened.

I have no idea how expensive it would be to extend Acela refurb'ed trainsets south of DC, but given the relative youth of the trainsets, (17 years) it isn't impossible that they could refurb some of them and keep them running if the expense of doing so wasn't too great.

 

It ain't gonna happen, but it is fun to think of what might be.

 

 

You know, this whole discussion about South of Washington has nothing to do with Westmoreland. Why are you carrying on with it here?


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:11 PM

Because it is more interesting than talking about a political hack like Westmoreland?


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:20 PM

Because it is more interesting than talking about a political hack like Westmoreland? And that said hack might, possibly, have an interest in sending a little consideration to his former constituents, who are South of Washington. And that this possibility would make Amtrak a bit more fun? Stranger things have happened.
I have no idea how expensive it would be to extend Acela refurb'ed trainsets south of DC, but given the relative youth of the trainsets, (17 years) it isn't impossible that they could refurb some of them and keep them running if the expense of doing so wasn't too great.
 
It ain't gonna happen, but it is fun to think of what might be.
 
 

You know, this whole discussion about South of Washington has nothing to do with Westmoreland. Why are you carrying on with it here?


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I thought you were smart enough to start a new topic. Well maybe not ;)


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:02 PM

If some of our posters could access Westmoreland's letters to voters about Amtrak we might get a better idea..



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:09 PM

Sorry that my mini-threadjack irritated you.  ;)

 

 

Because it is more interesting than talking about a political hack like Westmoreland? And that said hack might, possibly, have an interest in sending a little consideration to his former constituents, who are South of Washington. And that this possibility would make Amtrak a bit more fun? Stranger things have happened.
I have no idea how expensive it would be to extend Acela refurb'ed trainsets south of DC, but given the relative youth of the trainsets, (17 years) it isn't impossible that they could refurb some of them and keep them running if the expense of doing so wasn't too great.
 
It ain't gonna happen, but it is fun to think of what might be.
 
 

You know, this whole discussion about South of Washington has nothing to do with Westmoreland. Why are you carrying on with it here?


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I thought you were smart enough to start a new topic. Well maybe not ;)


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:10 PM

If some of our posters could access Westmoreland's letters to voters about Amtrak we might get a better idea..

Nevermind what he says. It's what he does that could matter.

 

Stephen Colbert described him as the "do-nothingest" member of Congress. (Westmoreland had never introduced a Bill at that time, not even the "re-naming the local Post Office" type.)

 

If Westmoreland serves as the do-nothingest member of the Amtrak Board, we can survive that.

 

Current members of the Board include one who used to work for Republican Majority Leader McConnell, and the Secretary of Transportation who has an extra-curricular position as the wife of record to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

 

Arguably, McConnell is the guy with influence on the Amtrak Board. LOL. And his wife is arguably doing the least damage to her department of any current members of the Cabinet.

 

We have 99 reasons to worry about Amtrak, but Westmoreland ain't one.


Edited by WoodyinNYC, 17 October 2017 - 04:11 PM.





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