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  1. Mar 27, 2014 #1
    While returning to Mpls. from Miami on the Silver Meteor on Thursday 3/20/2014 we picked up a private rail car in Florida to bring to D.C. I was curious if someone owns this personally or can it be rented? The name on the car was Chesapeake and Ohio and it was car #3.

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    Although I have no specific information on that particular car I do know they are often owned by wealthy folks with eccentric vacation habits. Others are owned by companies who use them to wine and dine important guests or potential business parters. Some can be rented through third parties when they are not needed by their owners. Prices range from a few hundred to several thousand dollars per room. If I fell into a lot of money I'd probably consider buying such a car or at least renting one.
     
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    Here is a link to a Trainweb.com's webpage that has a listing of private cars that were at a private railcar convention in 2002. The second car on the list is "Chapel Hill" which was C&O office car #3 from 1937 until sold in 1971.

    From the webpage:

    Is this the car? (Photo from New England Rail - here is a link)

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    This membership organization for people who own private rail cars has a pretty good website. Some people rent all or part of their cars. Sometimes they have real good prices, especially when the owner wants to go somewhere and wants help paying for it, but doesn't want to provide luxury service, so you bring and cook your own food, make your own bed, etc.

    When they have meetings or conventions, often several private cars will make the trip on the same Amtrak train. They usually also try to put together a PV-only train for a trip during the meetings. This is a great time for railfan photographers, and also can be another opportunity to ride. This year they have a meeting scheduled in May in Mississippi, and a convention in September in Maine.

    Edit since seeing The Davy Crockett post: Here is the AAPRCO charter page for Chapel Hill, including a couple of interior shots.
     
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    Actually, some private railcar excursions can be pretty reasonable and can be available to "regular" people. I've done several through LARail.com here in the Los Angeles area.
     
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    Agreed!

    For example, the Friends of 261 (website link) had a deal (due to some last minute cancellations) several years back to ride aboard several of their private cars from CHI to MSP that was (IIRC) cheaper than a sleeper on the Empire Builder - which was pulling said private cars!
     
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    Also agreed. I did an overnight LARail.com trip Los Angeles to San Diego round trip. They are now priced at $169 per person and you sleep on board so no motel bill. On top of that, the owner is a nice guy. The car is his hobby.
     
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    Agreed +3 :) Here's a trip report I did last year on a private car LAX-OAK. Great fun, and surprisingly reasonable in cost.
     
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    I have seen that car on one of the Silvers within the last year or so.
     
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    I've seen Northern Sky (the red and grey car on the right side of that photo) on the back of the SWC every Thanksgiving, it seems. I have several photos of it in my albums.
     
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    A couple of PV day trips LA to San Diego and back I've done cost about the same a Business Class ticket on the same Pacific Surfliner trains we were behind. The atmosphere and amenities were much better!
     
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    I also have done the LA to San Diego overnight...loved it! All the PV owners I've encountered are pretty friendly and nice.
     
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    Sounds like fun, and at a reasonable price. I should try it sometime. Any refreshments included?

    And what car was that? I've seen several sitting around at L.A. Union Station.
     
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    Actually, it was two cars...the Pacific Sands and the Salisbury Beach. There were refreshments and snacks available during the travel portions. Once in San Diego, you were on your own for meals, etc. The cars are "parked" right at the Santa Fe depot so a lot is close by. We got one-day passes each day for the trolley which is right there also.
     
  16. Mar 28, 2014 #16
    Wow! Thanks for all the great information. We had a great trip recently and knew what to do & expect from our trip from all the great information on here. I love this website! I will definitely investigate taking a trip on these cars. This years was sold out already, I will try for next year.

    At first glance it looks like the same car, but, when looking closer the name and the rivets are in different places. The car I seen the rivets went thru the "P" and this one it is thru the "L". Could it be the same car and it was repainted differently or could there be another car? Mostly just curious. Thanks.
     
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    Well excuse me Betty, but...

    Dysfunction? :eek:

    Here at AU? :unsure:

    I beg your pardon, but foaming from the mouth was perfectly normal in MY family growing up. :giggle:

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    Ms. 3M,

    The pictures are at least 7 years old, so it is entirely possible the car was repainted, as 'private varnish' are basically money pits in the effort to keep them running and not turning into rusted out heaps.

    Was the car you saw called Chapel Hill?
     
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    Yes it was called Chapel Hill.
     
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    It is the same car.

    From this article at USA Today:

     
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    Folks in the Washington, D.C. area enjoy rides on the 1920's-era "Dover Harbor" (www.doverharbor.com) for day trips to Williamsburg VA or New York City, or longer trips to Savannah, GA or across the country to the annual gatherings of members of AAPRCO (American Association of Private Rail Car Owners)
     
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    I've not had the pleasure, but I'll have to change that. Prices for chartering the DH are just a bit out of my price range, but the 'public trips' don't look too crazy expensive. Thanks for the info. :hi:
     
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    Ozark Mountain Railcar usually has any number of private cars in varied states of readiness to roll or disrepair listed on their site for sale. Sometimes I enjoy browsing through them, looking at the pictures, and daring to dream.

    Anyone want to go in for half? 1/4? 10%?
     
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    Tonights (Thur 4/10) Texas Eagle #21 had 2 Engines (needs them every day!)and 3 PVs on the tail!

    ASouthern RR Business Car #1 in the Original Green and Gold, a Passenger Service Car (kitchen/Crew Car) in Cream Colors and a Blue Dome Car #3 with a Southern Drum Head on the Platform!

    The Conductor told me it was enroute to San Antonio for Fiesta which is San Antonio's Big Spring Event!
     
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