Pacific Parlour Car Temporary Withdrawal

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  1. Nov 21, 2015 #1

    CHamilton

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    Pacific Parlour Car Temporary Withdrawal
     
  2. Nov 21, 2015 #2

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    When they pulled the PPCs out of service last winter,supposedly for maintence and "upgrades", they mostly set on a siding and not much or nothing was done to them besides required inspections and maintence.

    Hopefully Amtrak will take advantage of this opportunity to actually do some much needed work on these jewels!

    As most of us know, substituting a SSL, or even worse a CCC, for a PPC sucks!
     
  3. Nov 21, 2015 #3

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    I wonder if they'll even put them back in service. I hope they do... That battery fire was scary, though.
     
  4. Nov 21, 2015 #4

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    FWIW...From the last line of the article: "We are assured there is no intent to end the service."
     
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    Didn't a PPC have a window damaged from a rock-strike a few months ago?
     
  6. Nov 21, 2015 #6

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    I was lucky to have one on my CS leg Monday night. I will report back on my return journey (CS on Dec 16-17). I doubt they will be back in service yet, but I will let you know what I get.
     
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    I was on #11 on Wednesday. The PPC was in the consist.

    I enjoyed dinner in the PPC.

    It was my third trip this year in the PPC.

    I hope Amtrak puts them back in service.
     
  8. Nov 22, 2015 #8

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    Yeah, but Amtrak can say what it wants and honestly do what it wants.
     
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    Hence the "FWIW" at the beginning of my comment!
     
  10. Nov 23, 2015 #10

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    I can almost hear the evil snickering behind the podium as they say that... :angry: Was the spokesman Joe Isuzu?

    It's too bad, have my first CS trip scheduled for March, was hoping they'd limp along at least that long. :(
     
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    Put me in the minority that prefers a sightseer lounge to the PPC. I like the bigger windows in the sightseer cars, but the PPC was much cleaner after a day than the sightseer lounge (at least on my one trip on #14).
     
  12. Nov 23, 2015 #12

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    Hope they are back for my CS trip in May,,,, too early to cross my fingers?
     
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    Last winter, Amtrak cut down on the Capitol Limited's consist. They said that come summer, they'd restore it back to the typical length. There was much cynicism and predictions that it was the beginning of the end of the CL, and that Amtrak was going to gut it to a CONO-like train, but lo and behold, spring came and the full consist returned as promised.
     
  14. Nov 23, 2015 #14

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    Hopefully it comes back (as it has several times before) before mid February. I've a bedroom reserved from LAX-PDX and I was looking forward to spending some time in the PPC. I've ridden that route with a CCC substituted before (couldn't gripe, it was right after an earthquake and they'd just reopened the tracks and was lucky to have a train at all) and it was OK, just not the Parlour.

    Experience the PPC while you still can, and buy an overpriced drink too, they are quite old and one of these days they will be too expensive to keep in the consist.
     
  15. Nov 23, 2015 #15

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    basically the same age as the budd cars via rail operates
     
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    But I would speculate the Via Budd cars receive vastly superior maintenance work then the PPC's...
     
  17. Nov 26, 2015 #17

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    I can confirm that ppc is in service on the train 14 I am on right now. However, there is no meal service and movie due to short staff. My SCA said amtrak is trying to get a ppc attendant in Sacramento hopefully the service is resumed in Sacramento.
     
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    Which 14 are you on? Departed LAX today or yesterday?
     
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    Sounds like today's since they haven't gotten to SAC yet.
     
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    Never mind.
     
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    While I love the PPC, I do believe the Sightseer Lounge could be just as good or even better with its improved visability. All Amtrak needs to do is take the wonderful swivel upholstered seats out of the PPC and put them in a SSL along with improved table seating (please, no plastic seats) and you're good to go. Use the upstairs SSL cafe area for the attendant to serve his wine and other goodies. Food prep can take place downstairs, although I guess its now hauled over from the diner. Not sure that catered first class airline food wouldn't be better and store it downstairs.
     
  22. Nov 26, 2015 #22

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    I am on 14 that departed today. Are you on 14 that departed yesterday?
     
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    I would think you could order from the Diner (where the PPC Meals are now plated) and just haul it across yourself; hell, I'd even be kind enough to clean up my table and haul the trash and reusables back to the Diner :)
     
  24. Nov 27, 2015 #24

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    I tried to buy some drinks in the PPC but they only stocked two minis of JD at the start of the run. I wasn't surprised since I've run into similar stocking problems on other trains. You'd think Amtrak would stock hundreds of minis per trip since the markup can make plenty of money, but apparently you'd be wrong. It's kind of hard for a car like the PPC to break even if there's so little being stocked and so little effort to sell it. Why isn't Amtrak selling train related mementos and trinkets in the PPC and SSL? Why doesn't the PPC attendant come around and offer drinks and snacks at your seat? Heck why don't all train attendants do that? I don't expect Amtrak to break even but it sure seems like they could counteract more of the overhead with a stronger emphasis on stocking and selling goods that make sense on a train. Instead they keep further degrading the service and my desire to make use of it.
     
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    What is a CCC car?
     

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