I've avoided commenting in this thread until now, but I'll weigh my $0.02. I enjoyed the PPC, but the cars were so moribund they presented more of a liability on all accounts than they did any nature of benefit. To me, it was novel to have such a heritage piece of equipment still in revenue service on the only interstate passenger rail system left, but the real benefit was less the physical car and more the idea. Lets face it, Amtrak's Long Distance sytem is fast becoming little more than a Air Koryo of American passenger rail service. Ancient and anachronistic equipment (when was the last time you traveled on an airliner or bus, operated by a major carrier, manufactured by a defunct company in the 1970's?!), surly and inconsistent service, generally unreliable and frustrating on time performance. Yes, they'll get you to your destination, usually, and it will come with the "experience" factor. But this is a downward trend that is not going to right itself, ever. I can strongly support a conversion of SSL's and CCC's into modern and elegant replacements of the Hi-Level PPC's, especially since doing so would likely add revenue potential to existing equipment. But, if Amtrak cannot even find the funding to truly convert their Long Distance Business Class into a consistent product of seating style, pitch and amenities for lack of the money to even buy new off-the-shelf seating, then they will never ever spend the capital to make a single new PPC no matter how much the market potentially calls for such. I really would love to be proved horribly wrong in my assessment. Again, I loved the PPC's, but they should have been replaced and moved to a museum 20 years ago and newer equipment converted into the role.