NW mudslide season 2018-19

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  1. Nov 19, 2018 #1

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    A very interesting article, and the imbedded video of the 2012 mudslide and freight derailment is chilling. Don''t click on it right away if you want to finish reading the article, though, since the Everett Herald only gives you one free read before you have to sign up...but you can click on it once you finish, and honestly, you'll want to.
     
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    https://www.amtrak.com/alert/service-suspended-between-seattle-and-vancouver.html

     
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    I suppose it is poorly worded but it is possible to resume service on Sunday.  The moratorium is 48 hours from the event, meaning it is lifted on Sunday, at 4pm. There are departures on Sunday after 4pm.  Those trains COULD operate.
     
  6. Jan 6, 2019 #6

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    Which Vancouver is being referred to in the notice?

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    BC!!
     
  8. Jan 7, 2019 #8

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    Correct, but there's no excuse for them not specifying it in the announcement....you get to a Vancouver whether you go north or south from Seattle. While the Canadian one is much larger, and also an endpoint for the Cascades, there's nothing in the service announcement that rules out the possibility of it being the Vancouver in Washington state.

    That said, it's been a relatively quite winter so far in terms of mudslides along the Cascades route. Fingers crossed...
     
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    The Vancouver BC-Seattle route is really hopeless in the long run unless they move the tracks inland.  :sigh:
     
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    Then so is the Builder.  The real problem area is between Seattle and Everett.

    Not to mention all the BNSF freight traffic heading over Stevens Pass...
     
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    Affecting the Seattle to Everett tracks also used by the Cascades SEA-VAC service and the Empire Builder.
     
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    Yes. The Empire Builder, however, can always use Stampede Pass. (Though if we were spending big money, Snoqualmie would be better.)

    There are no options remaining for Seattle-Vancouver except greenfield construction. None. I'm wondering when the people in power will recognize this; they certainly haven't recognized it yet.
     
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    The only thing I think about Stampede Pass might be if Stevens is shut down a capacity issue with freights going over Stampede. But what I wouldn’t give to ride Stampede Pass.
     
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    BNSF does not want public to travel on the route in case of another slide. Liability? The landslide cancellations are kind of puzzling. The Empire builder drops all passengers at Everett. Then passengers are bussed to King street station. Then the empty train of passengers then proceeds onward thru Seattle King street station to the barn. Now do the OBS people stay on the train or do they also travel on the bus. ? If OBS and crew stay on do any of them have cars at King street? Suspect that the train might stop at King street to unload baggage?

    Outbound passengers just the opposite.
     
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    It always depends on the situation. We usually get directed to ride the bus if there's space. Though last year I once opted to stay with the equipment. (We deadheaded from Bellingham to Vancouver due to a previous slide in New Westminster.) What a bad decision that was. Took us almost 6 hours to run from Bellingham to Vancouver, since we were in deadhead status.
     
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    One time I rode a Builder that was deadheaded up from Seattle (I was getting on in Everett anyway) and asked my SCA about that. She said they rode the train, and was kind of unhappy about it, saying that if it was unsafe for passengers, it was unsafe for them.
     

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