New River Train might run again

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    I wonder if there is a enough time for the sponsors to operate it this year.
     
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    I hope it fails. Probably a response no one expected out of me.
     
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    Please elaborate?
     
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    The group that was running this train, lost 180,000 usd last year (Reported). So how does the fine Senator from West Virginia plan to operate this train? Have Amtrak do it with there equipment?

    I don’t think that the Collis P. Huntington Railroad Historical Society is available.
     
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    It’s not CP Huntington which is why I hope it fails. And that is all I can say because I’m sworn to total secrecy. I hope he fails though
     
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    I suspect it's too little, too late, in my opinion.

    It also gets Amtrak out of being the 'bad guy' for the New River train.

    I recall reading somewhere that the C&O historical society group that sponsors the train declared bankruptcy. That's why the news article indicated their phones were out of service.

    Add that it appears that Amtrak has OK'd the train. Period. The collection of privately owned cars from wherever they are located would still have to get there, paying the now-'usual' outrageous haulage charges while toeing the line 'no open vestibule doors and empty platforms' rules.

    So, would Amtrak extend credit to the bankrupt historical group for use of their locomotives and crews? Would the individual car owners want to shell out thousands of dollars and HOPE to get paid by the same historical group?
     
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    So if it’s not your friends you hope it fails?

    Railroaders are such a jealous bunch.
     
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    It also happens to be someone I seriously dislike both personally and professionally. There are several layers stacked on to this. Small community
     
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    Jealousy, retribution, pettiness... How many layers are we talking about?
     
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    And this ladies and gentlemen is the reason that most rail advocacy is doomed to fail. The advocates spend more time fighting and bad mouthing each other than dealing with the real issues based on real facts as opposed to rumors and innuendos... This is not just limited to the PV community but pretty much infects the entire rail advocacy community. You should see the proportion of time that is spent by the rail advocates in the New York/New Jersey area or even in outfits like the RPA just bickering among themselves compared to the time spent actually advocating.
     
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    While I generally agree with the above statement.

    Running a business into bankruptcy, and then have a third party take it over, does strike me as unacceptable behavior.


     
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    I’m anxious to see the details of the new operation. According to the OP link, Sen.
    Machin said details to be released in a week, and that was on 5/23. Regardless of the circumstances, I would think a revival of the train would be good for all those in WV, and maybe a few railfans.

    Let’s just hope there is not some quid pro quo with Amtrak agreeing to this and Machin backing off objecting to some future changes with Amtrak service. Sorry for being a bit cynical about Amtrak dealings and politicians. I hope Seaboard92 differences can be reconciled as he clearly enjoyed his work on it.
     
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    The winner is:



    https://www.railexco.com

    Three guys with a history of PV operations.

    It will be interesting if they can pull this off. Iowa (IOU) Pacific comes to mind.

    The amount of equipment used is what 25-30 passenger cars.


    Going to get my popcorn and sit back, and watch with interest.
     
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    Actually I change my tune slightly. I like and respect two of the three.
     
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    Oh great, this company is how many days old?
     
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    Brand new I believe. I would like to sit back with pop corn but I’m busy on other projects far bigger than theirs.
     
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    They look awfully young--no wonder they said they have 25 years "combined" experience!:D (It couldn't possibly be that I'm getting older and that's why they look so young to me?!:confused:)
     
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