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Jason
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Does Amtrak require an observed drug test
Id rather have an engineer that did neither! Not as a moral issue, but for Safety reasons!I would rather have my engine driven by someone who had smoked pot 30 days ago than someone who had been very drunk 2 days ago
Trust me, Amtrak will test hair from other places if there is none on the head! :giggle: :wacko:Never trust a bald, clean shaven Amtrak employee?
I can agree with part of this statement.. What someone does while on vacation isn't anyone else's business, to an extent.. Sure a few adult beverages are ok. Any illegal drugs though.. That's where I have an issue.What people do when they're on vacation or off duty for 96 hours is really none of the employer's business. There are very few drugs which last THAT long (LSD maybe). But we've still got these crazy 1980s-era testing policies which don't really determine whether someone is fit to work *now*, just whether they were fit to work in the past (when they weren't working, of course). Someone could have a nice clean hair test and go get stinking drunk just before going to work.
No.Hypothetical question:
Now that marijuana use is legal in many locations, is it possible that a person could test positive
after being in the presence of a user, and inadvertently inhaling some second-hand smoke?
Tom
This is the part of the drug testing which I think is... poorly thought out. A "fitness for work" check upon arrival at work would make the most sense.There is such a thing as marijuana impaired driving, but most would question whether someone who smoked on vacation, say, is still impaired two weeks later. The metabolites can show up in urine up to 30 days later. Many drivers have lost their jobs for this since the 1980s.
Yeah, that really upsets me. Distracted & fatigued driving is really, really dangerous, and it's not taken seriously.Ironically, many, many employers allow employees to drive while SICK or FATIGUED*, both of which can make you as impaired as someone who is DUI ALCOHOL**. But observe how much the transportation industry squeals like stuck pigs when the government attempts to restrict hours of service, or when local governments propose mandatory paid sick leave!
Amtrak does not do the hair at random tests for Train and Engine service. Only a breathalyzer test and a urine test (not observed). At the physicals required to maintain certification they do a urine test (not observed).Didn't realize Amtrak would do a test on hair. Even the airlines only do a urine test for pre-employment. After that it's random, along with the FAA mandated 8 hour bottle to throttle rule. Some airlines require longer, such as 10 or 12 hours.
Yes - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3080518/Second-hand-smoke-make-FAIL-drug-test-Stronger-strains-marijuana-damaging-non-smokers-claims-study.htmlNo.Hypothetical question:
Now that marijuana use is legal in many locations, is it possible that a person could test positive
after being in the presence of a user, and inadvertently inhaling some second-hand smoke?
Tom
No. Office jobs aren't goverend by FRA... I'm sure they'd do a urine test, but T&E, MOW are the jobs that require Hair and Urine. As they are safety sensitve jobs. Answering phones at a call center isn't a safety sensitive job.I hate to revive an old thread, but does anyone know if Amtrak does hair follicle testing for non union (or non customer facing) jobs? Let's say customer service or sales or office type jobs.
Thanks!
Yes, but railroad employers can set their own rules that are more stringent than the FRA. Amtrak does drug test job applicants for positions that are not DOT jobs. Not only job applicants......to maintain a drug free workplace.No. Office jobs aren't goverend by FRA... I'm sure they'd do a urine test, but T&E, MOW are the jobs that require Hair and Urine. As they are safety sensitve jobs. Answering phones at a call center isn't a safety sensitive job.I hate to revive an old thread, but does anyone know if Amtrak does hair follicle testing for non union (or non customer facing) jobs? Let's say customer service or sales or office type jobs.
Thanks!
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