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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    It appears that Brightline is not selling tickets for their Orlando service until September 15th now. Either the first 15 days of September have sold out every train or they have quietly pushed back the start of service to Orlando. Has anyone who bought tickets before September 15th received...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Here you go... it contains a track chart with maximum speeds for each segment. This document is Brightline's PTC development plan.
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Yeah, the whole bridge loading issue has kind of been brushed aside and ignored. I follow Brightline extensively and never saw any reports of the bridges being certified for higher load ratings. I wonder if this is just the usual Florida way of doing business? I suppose a request for documents...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    I never heard of remediation being done on the TriRail bridges to the Miami Central Station. Is there a link you can post to this work? I would be interested in seeing what was done. I always assumed that once a bridge was constructed, that it would be difficult to strengthen. These bridges use...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/coast-guard-bridge-plan-ignores-practices-elsewhere-realities-of-railroad-operation/ Seems the USCG has not followed the precedent set at the New River drawbridge in Fort Lauderdale. There seems to be a whiff of politics in this decision.
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Yes. It took some time to resolve that too. I am not sure that was a TriRail issue or an error on the part of the engineering team hired by Brightline to design the platforms. In addition, the approach bridge designs were questioned as far as maximum load stress on the spans at maximum speed...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Some of the delay can be attributed to Brightline/FECR changing the PTC system as well as changing the dispatching requirements. As far as the delay running test trains, I am not sure if it was negotiations that were tough to agree on by all 3 parties or what was the cause. I would think that...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Finally a voice of reason from the Treasure Coast area. This guy seems to understand the reality of what Brian Mast has engineered for the people of Stuart. It isn't gonna be pretty if the claim by FECR of 16 trains a day stopped by the mandatory bridge openings, regardless of if there is a boat...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    According to the link from the Trains Magazine article to the Federal Register of rules governing the operation the FECR bridge, there is no minimum limitation on train length that the rules would apply to. Federal Register :: Request Access Under this temporary deviation, the FEC Railroad...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Yeah, that struck me as odd. But the marine interests in Stuart and Port St Lucie are not really logical. They tend to think their own interests trump everyone else's. If what Bob Johnston says is true about the 22 and 42 minutes past each hour, how is that not agreeable? The not so frequent...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Here is Trains magazine's take on it per Bob Johnston, for those of you who see a paywall with the Sentinel newspaper link. Coast Guard to impose twice-hourly bridge openings on Brightline route - Trains
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    Brightline service from South Florida to Orlando could be cut in half under Coast Guard plan for St. Lucie River drawbridge I am surprised no one has posted this yet as it has significant impact on the Orlando service. Brightline says it could result in only half of the proposed Orlando...
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    I recall that Florida's Turnpike was excluded from any additional compensation due to diversion. Probably the traffic study would be too difficult to really pin down direct diversion numbers? It was many months of negotiations iirc and was one of the more difficult to reach. The Treasure Coast...
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    Way back in 2013 or so I remember reading about the negotiations between CFX, FDOT, and Brightline. They were concerned about losing toll revenue to Brightline from any future stations in Brevard. So if Brightline does open a station in Brevard, part of the ticket price will be divided between...
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    Yeah that's my recollection as well. Brightline pays a portion of every ticket between MCO and Brevard to CFX and FDOT. It sucks because one would think it would reduce road maintenance. But FDOT is thinking it will impact toll revenue on the Florida Turnpike between Orlando and Ft Pierce I...
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    My understanding is that the east portion of 528 is part of the Florida Tollway (Turnpike) Authority system. Maybe they collect a toll based on the toll stations on CFX property?
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    The fee has already been baked in as part of the lease agreed upon back in 2014 or so. It is not based on cars being diverted but on Brightline ticket sales between MCO and any future stop in Orange County or Brevard. This is also an issue with traffic on 417 west of the airport. Any reduction...
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    Yes it was minimal but still not insignificant. I also understand that use of the 528 or 417 right of ways to the west of MCO will also trigger some sort of fee. I don't recall if FDOT is charging their own fee for the toll roads they control at the east end of 528 and the west end of 417 near...
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    Brightline & Florida Cruise traffic

    Years ago when AAF negotiated the lease with what is now CFX, there is a stipulation that a per passenger fee is charged to Brightline for any passenger going to or from Brevard County from MCO. I don't recall what the fee is but I do remember it is also structured to be based on inflation over...
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    Brightline Trains Florida discussion

    KC Ingram is the founder of the Florida Not All Aboard organization. So take what she says with caution. I battled with her back in 2013-15 on Facebook. She is against Brightline and aligned with the boaters in Stuart.
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