Chase Sapphire Preferred Offer - Should I sign up?

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benjibear

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So I have heard people on here talk about this card before. In the mail today, I got an offer for this card. I will get 40,000 bonus points for spending $2000 in the first 3 months and 5,000 points for adding an authorized user. Is this a good deal or has there been better deals to sign up for this card?

Also, when transferring to Amtrak, is there a fee? So I can I can transfer all the points to Amtrak if I want? Is there a better way to use these points? It looks like I can also transfer into my Holiday Inn rewards.

After the first year there is a $95 fee. It appears I will get more points using this card then the Amtrak Chase card since you get double points on travel and restaurant related purchases. Plus, it looks like you get 7% additional points at the end of the year. It looks like it may be worth having and paying the $95 is well worth it since you get the extra points.

What am I missing? I am ready to sign up. I am saving up for a California trip and the extra points will help alot.
 
I have the card and am very happy with it. Also, there are no foreign transaction fees. I received 50,000 points when I signed up several years ago. There is no charge to transfer to AGR, but, I think must be in 1,000 point increments.
 
The good recommendations from here and from my daughter who is now somewhere in a different time zone --

I applied and got the card two weeks ago and it makes a perfect companion to my Chase AGR card.

Plus -- it's got a CHIP -- daughter says this helps in EU.

Zero fee to transfer the points 1/1 to AGR. Good deal on exchange rates on ATMS overseas.

Go for it.
 
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Between Chase Sapphire Preferred and Chase AGR, you can really rack up and accumulate AGR points without point expiration. I have both, and I use AGR card for rail purchases only and CSP for everything else, taking advantage of double points on travel and dining.

Normally, people with CSP are busy transferring points to UA or Hyatt, but really Amtrak has the best value. This is an analysis (which is outdated thanks to devaluation of UA, Hyatt, SW, etc.)

http://thepointsguy.com/2013/06/top-10-ways-to-maximize-each-ultimate-rewards-transfer-partner/
 
If you can get a Chase checking account, the Freedom card with the 10% annual bonus is a better choice for general spend (plus the quarterly bonuses), but you still have to have a fee card (CSP or Ink) to get transfers to AGR.
 
I have had the Sapphire card for two years and have accumulated more than 80,000 points.

It is a good companion card to the AGR MasterCard.
 
I got the card, put the spend on it, got the bonus within 2 weeks, transferred the points to AGR (instantly), and booked a Chicago-Emeryville trip with family bedroom. FOR FREE.

Do it.
 
Before I go to the trouble of applying for the Chase Sapphire Preferred, am i correct that I can transfer the bonus 40,000 points straight to AGR for 40,000 AGR points?
 
But it will likely be a week+ before you get the actual card. :unsure: . Maybe they take longer to manufacture with the aluminum body and embedded SIM-like chip.
 
Card is on the way. Question: is there any reason to use the Amtrak Chase MC once you have the Sapphire card? Does the Sapphire card give you the same double points for booking Amtrak trips that you get using Amtrak MC?
 
I don't know the answer for your specific question but I would keep using it at least a little. Keeping some level of activity on a card is good. I had a card that I haven't used for years and I got a letter saying the bank was closing my account because of inactivity. For that card, I didn't care, but for Amtrak, I wouldn't want them to close my account.
 
Card is on the way. Question: is there any reason to use the Amtrak Chase MC once you have the Sapphire card? Does the Sapphire card give you the same double points for booking Amtrak trips that you get using Amtrak MC?
Same double points -yes -probably - my last statement from the Chase Saphire Prefered shows "travel, dining" one point per dollar, not 2x like the T&C said. Will raise the issue with Chase or points.com after next statement.

Another possible reason to keep the Amtrak points card when you get both is -- sometimes the bonus for shopping might be better at one or the other. Right now I'm using the multipoints on the AGR Site with Turbotax (yeah me last-minute-filer). Don't know if the Chase points has the same good deal.

Another reason to keep both cards depends on your credit rating -- in some situations, having more unused credit improves your rating by lowering your percentage of total credit used. Go figure.

Overall, me and my daughter like the CSP much.
 
Oh, and this is NOT copied from any Chase website, it's just an impression I got from somewhere, not wanting to impinge on any corporate citizens proprietary data, but I thought I saw something like this somewhere --

+ 1 Point per $1 earned on all purchases xxx
+ 1 Point per $1 earned on dining yy
+ 1 Point per $1 earned on travel 30
+ 1 Point per $1 on Ultimate Rewards travel 0
+ Bonus points from Ultimate Rewards Mall 0

edit --

This might be - possibly - how Chase Sapphire actually works -- If--if this is how the CSP works -- maybe some questions?

1 point per dollar for travel?
 
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The category bonuses for the Chase Sapphire Preferred card are explained below. If this is not what you're receiving from Chase then the business may not be setup as a direct seller or the merchant code may be excluded or incorrectly assigned.

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You will earn 1 point for each $1 of Net Purchases. You will earn an additional 1 point for each $1 of Net Purchases made in any of the following categories: travel; dining - when you use your card at restaurants. Merchants who accept Visa/MasterCard credit cards are assigned a merchant code based on the kinds of products and services they sell. Chase groups similar merchant codes into categories for purposes of making rewards offers to you. Chase makes every effort to include all relevant merchant codes in its listed categories. However, even though a merchant or the items that it sells may appear to fit within a listed category, the merchant may not have a merchant code that falls within that category. Therefore, purchases with that merchant will not qualify for the stated rewards offer on category purchases. For more information about Chase rewards categories, see www.Chase.com/RewardsFAQs. You will also earn an additional 1 point for each $1 of airfare and hotel accommodation Net Purchases when you book at chase.com/ultimaterewards (for a total of 3 points). ("Net Purchases" are purchases of goods and services made by you or any authorized user on your account minus any returns or refunds, and do not include balance transfers, cash advances, cash-like charges such as travelers checks, foreign currency, and money orders, any checks that access your account, overdraft advances, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, or fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.) You'll receive a 7% Annual Points Dividend on all new points earned on purchases made with your Chase Sapphire Preferred card during the previous year. ("Year" means, for your first year as a cardmember, the period beginning with your Enrollment Date through your billing cycle with a December closing date of that same year. For each year thereafter, "Year" means the twelve billing cycle period beginning the day after your billing cycle with a December closing date through your billing cycle with a December closing date of the next year.) Your 7% Annual Points Dividend will appear on your January or February billing statement. You will not earn the 7% Annual Points Dividend on new account bonus points, previous Annual Points Dividends awarded, or points transferred into your account. There is no maximum number of points that you can accumulate in the program. Bonus/Promotional offers may have a maximum accumulation. See Rewards Program Rules and Regulations which will be mailed after your account is established.

Q. What determines whether a merchant falls within a particular rewards category?

A. Merchants who accept Visa/MasterCard credit cards are assigned a merchant code which is determined by the merchant or its processor in accordance with Visa/Mastercard procedures based on the kinds of products and services they primarily sell. Chase groups similar merchant codes into categories for purposes of making rewards offers to you. Chase makes every effort to include all relevant merchant codes in its rewards categories. However, even though a merchant or some of the items that it sells may appear to fit within a rewards category, the merchant may not have a merchant code that falls within that category. Therefore, purchases with that merchant will not qualify for the stated rewards offer on category purchases. Purchases submitted by you or the merchant through third-party payment accounts (e.g. PayPal), mobile or wireless card readers, online or mobile digital wallets, or similar technology (collectively, "Technology") will not qualify in a rewards category if the Technology is not set up to process the purchase in the rewards category.

Q. What types of merchants are in the travel category?

A. Merchants in the travel category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, campgrounds, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, sightseeing activities, including sightseeing activities that take place on vehicles such as dinner cruises and tour buses, tourist attractions, and operators of trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages. Please note that some merchants that provide transportation and travel-related services are not included in this category; for example, real estate agents, websites or owners that rent properties, in-flight goods and services, merchants within airports, and merchants that rent trailers, trucks, and other vehicles for the purpose of hauling.

Q. What types of merchants are in the restaurants category?

A. Merchants in the restaurants category are merchants whose primary business is sit-down or eat-in dining, including fast food restaurants as well as fine dining establishments. Please note that some merchants that sell food and drinks located within larger merchants such as sports stadiums, hotels and casinos, theme parks, and department stores may not be included in this category.
 
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Oh, and this is NOT copied from any Chase website, it's just an impression I got from somewhere, not wanting to impinge on any corporate citizens proprietary data, but I thought I saw something like this somewhere --

+ 1 Point per $1 earned on all purchases xxx

+ 1 Point per $1 earned on dining yy

+ 1 Point per $1 earned on travel 30

+ 1 Point per $1 on Ultimate Rewards travel 0

+ Bonus points from Ultimate Rewards Mall 0

edit --

This might be - possibly - how Chase Sapphire actually works -- If--if this is how the CSP works -- maybe some questions?

1 point per dollar for travel?
One bonus point, plus the point you get for everything in the first line gives you the 2 points per dollar.

Sent from my iPhone
 
So the 1 point for travel is an add-on to the total point thingy. Aha. not just 1 point for travel -- one additional point for travel. -- OK.
 
The Chase Sapphire card is really good for transfer points. And really good for having the chip. But --

After the first year it costs $95 per year.

How many "points" does that cost?

Keep the no-annual-fee AGR card if you can't justify $95 up-front.
 
The Chase Sapphire card is really good for transfer points. And really good for having the chip. But --

After the first year it costs $95 per year.

How many "points" does that cost?

Keep the no-annual-fee AGR card if you can't justify $95 up-front.
I believe 5,000 points equals $50. So That would mean 9500 points to keep the card per year.
 
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