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Oh, and we do have nice canvas bags that they fit in.

They are folding bikes and they do fold up small enough to meet Amtrak's folding bike policy, however they are full-size, not the little clown bikes (as my husband refers to them), but traveling with 2 of them, they do take up some room. However, the reason we got them was to be able to take...

Thanks again, everyone. Since a couple of you think that there is a chance that they will stow them in the baggage car without us having to box them up, I think we will stay with the Cardinal. We booked that because we did want to see the scenery, but I think we are on the wrong side, we are...

We got the folding bikes to avoid checking them and we like the simplicity of carrying them on the train, but if we want to ride the Cardinal we may have to rethink that.