Replying to Business vs Coach Class

At least from my experience, in Washington for regional, they will announce that handicapped and BC passengers can board first. So, if you are BC, you can comfortably sit while waiting, and then at the announcement, waltz right on by the long line of tired coach passengers.

The inconsistencies of Amtrak. I was boarding Regional 195 in DC this past Monday and there was no priority boarding for senior citizens, families or BC. It may have been due to the fact that 195 and the Silver Star were boarding simultaneously at adjacent gates so it was a madhouse.

Also, I came in on #30 and was not able to board from the Acela lounge. The attendant said to go to the gate at 2:15 for a 2:50 departure. At least I got to wait in the lounge until departure, #30 was 25 minutes early.

At least from my experience, in Washington for regional, they will announce that handicapped and BC passengers can board first. So, if you are BC, you can comfortably sit while waiting, and then at the announcement, waltz right on by the long line of tired coach passengers.

Let's get back on topic.

If Amtrak's Palmetto uses Amfleet II coaches for BC, how do the passengers distinguish the signs on the cars? Not everybody knows the differces between an Amfleet I and II.

The Palmetto doesn't use Amfleet II coaches for BC. It uses a 60-seater Amfleet I, and regular coach is comprised of a normal 72-ish seater and three Amfleet II coaches.

And people distinguish because employees tell them. It's also typically on the other end of the train.

So there is Amfleet I 60-seaters, Amfleet II 59-seaters, and Amfleet I 72-seaters? This is really confusing!

No! Not anymore. Amtrak used to have a few different seating configurations for the Amfleet I's, but today all are of the 72 seat variety. The Amfleet II's all have 59 seats. See this listing from On Track On Line.

Amtrak doesn't have any 60-seat Amfleet Is?

60 seaters, no. There are 62 seat business class AMF I's, but no coach cars with 60 seats.

Those are the cars I'm speaking of.

Those are the cars I were thinking about, too! That cleared up the confusion, but three type of revenue Amfleets on one train is still crazy, IMO.
This is getting to be a huge quoting block!

Let's get back on topic.

If Amtrak's Palmetto uses Amfleet II coaches for BC, how do the passengers distinguish the signs on the cars? Not everybody knows the differces between an Amfleet I and II.

The Palmetto doesn't use Amfleet II coaches for BC. It uses a 60-seater Amfleet I, and regular coach is comprised of a normal 72-ish seater and three Amfleet II coaches.

And people distinguish because employees tell them. It's also typically on the other end of the train.

So there is Amfleet I 60-seaters, Amfleet II 59-seaters, and Amfleet I 72-seaters? This is really confusing!

No! Not anymore. Amtrak used to have a few different seating configurations for the Amfleet I's, but today all are of the 72 seat variety. The Amfleet II's all have 59 seats. See this listing from On Track On Line.

Amtrak doesn't have any 60-seat Amfleet Is?

60 seaters, no. There are 62 seat business class AMF I's, but no coach cars with 60 seats.

Those are the cars I'm speaking of.

Let's get back on topic.

If Amtrak's Palmetto uses Amfleet II coaches for BC, how do the passengers distinguish the signs on the cars? Not everybody knows the differces between an Amfleet I and II.

The Palmetto doesn't use Amfleet II coaches for BC. It uses a 60-seater Amfleet I, and regular coach is comprised of a normal 72-ish seater and three Amfleet II coaches.

And people distinguish because employees tell them. It's also typically on the other end of the train.

So there is Amfleet I 60-seaters, Amfleet II 59-seaters, and Amfleet I 72-seaters? This is really confusing!

No! Not anymore. Amtrak used to have a few different seating configurations for the Amfleet I's, but today all are of the 72 seat variety. The Amfleet II's all have 59 seats. See this listing from On Track On Line.

Amtrak doesn't have any 60-seat Amfleet Is?

60 seaters, no. There are 62 seat business class AMF I's, but no coach cars with 60 seats.

Let's get back on topic.

If Amtrak's Palmetto uses Amfleet II coaches for BC, how do the passengers distinguish the signs on the cars? Not everybody knows the differces between an Amfleet I and II.

The Palmetto doesn't use Amfleet II coaches for BC. It uses a 60-seater Amfleet I, and regular coach is comprised of a normal 72-ish seater and three Amfleet II coaches.

And people distinguish because employees tell them. It's also typically on the other end of the train.

So there is Amfleet I 60-seaters, Amfleet II 59-seaters, and Amfleet I 72-seaters? This is really confusing!

No! Not anymore. Amtrak used to have a few different seating configurations for the Amfleet I's, but today all are of the 72 seat variety. The Amfleet II's all have 59 seats. See this listing from On Track On Line.

Amtrak doesn't have any 60-seat Amfleet Is?

Let's get back on topic.

If Amtrak's Palmetto uses Amfleet II coaches for BC, how do the passengers distinguish the signs on the cars? Not everybody knows the differces between an Amfleet I and II.

The Palmetto doesn't use Amfleet II coaches for BC. It uses a 60-seater Amfleet I, and regular coach is comprised of a normal 72-ish seater and three Amfleet II coaches.

And people distinguish because employees tell them. It's also typically on the other end of the train.

So there is Amfleet I 60-seaters, Amfleet II 59-seaters, and Amfleet I 72-seaters? This is really confusing!

No! Not anymore. Amtrak used to have a few different seating configurations for the Amfleet I's, but today all are of the 72 seat variety. The Amfleet II's all have 59 seats. See this listing from On Track On Line.

Let's get back on topic.

If Amtrak's Palmetto uses Amfleet II coaches for BC, how do the passengers distinguish the signs on the cars? Not everybody knows the differces between an Amfleet I and II.

The Palmetto doesn't use Amfleet II coaches for BC. It uses a 60-seater Amfleet I, and regular coach is comprised of a normal 72-ish seater and three Amfleet II coaches.

And people distinguish because employees tell them. It's also typically on the other end of the train.

So there is Amfleet I 60-seaters, Amfleet II 59-seaters, and Amfleet I 72-seaters? This is really confusing!

Having said that, Amfleet I BC generally gets you lighter loads, WiFi, and the last time I tried it, I found the seats and legroom much improved over prior incarnations. Legroom is now almost as good as Amfleet II.

Hopefully the legroom is nearly identical. Regardless of small differences in bathroom size and a missing vestibule, they do have the same number of seats.

Now that the Palmetto and Pennsy are running Amfleet-I full business class cars, these are two trains where you can get a more comfortable ride in coach, as the Amfleet IIs have calf rests and more legroom.

Having said that, Amfleet I BC generally gets you lighter loads, WiFi, and the last time I tried it, I found the seats and legroom much improved over prior incarnations. Legroom is now almost as good as Amfleet II.