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George Harris
Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:29 PM
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Ispolkom
Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:47 AM
PetalumaLoco
Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:27 PM
George Harris, on Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 03:27 PM, said:
PetalumaLoco, on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 09:20 PM, said:
From Trains Magazine, July 09.
Miles per gallon carrying 1 ton of cargo.
Truck freight: 155
Freight railroad: 413
Inland towing: 576
Their source: Texas Transportation Inst. 2007
Presumably an average. But, there can be a huge difference between upstream and downstream. I have watched upstream tows going past Memphis upstream running flat out and barely moving, and the downstream ones using only enough power to maintain control.
Know about the Natchez Trace? It owes its existence to that issue. Flatboats propelled by human power and current would float downstream form Nashville or thereabouts on the Cumberland, Ohio, and Mississippi Rivers to Natchez, which the ocean going ships of that time could reach. The flatboat men would then walk back to Nashville along the trail that became known as the Natchez trace.
Cool. I love little historic tidbits.
George Harris
Posted 26 January 2010 - 06:27 PM
PetalumaLoco, on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 09:20 PM, said:
From Trains Magazine, July 09.
Miles per gallon carrying 1 ton of cargo.
Truck freight: 155
Freight railroad: 413
Inland towing: 576
Their source: Texas Transportation Inst. 2007
Presumably an average. But, there can be a huge difference between upstream and downstream. I have watched upstream tows going past Memphis upstream running flat out and barely moving, and the downstream ones using only enough power to maintain control.
Know about the Natchez Trace? It owes its existence to that issue. Flatboats propelled by human power and current would float downstream form Nashville or thereabouts on the Cumberland, Ohio, and Mississippi Rivers to Natchez, which the ocean going ships of that time could reach. The flatboat men would then walk back to Nashville along the trail that became known as the Natchez trace.
PetalumaLoco
Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:20 PM
Gavain, on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 07:35 PM, said:
Inland barge is the most energy efficient.
From Trains Magazine, July 09.
Miles per gallon carrying 1 ton of cargo.
Truck freight: 155
Freight railroad: 413
Inland towing: 576
Their source: Texas Transportation Inst. 2007
Gavain
Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:35 PM
AAARGH!
Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:59 PM
ALC_Rail_Writer
Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:40 PM
Long Train Runnin'
Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:22 PM
leemell
Posted 26 November 2009 - 03:24 PM
George Harris, on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 12:14 PM, said:
rrrhythm, on Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 07:02 AM, said:
This is a true statement. Remember, they are not moving one ton by itself. What we have here is probably best called economy of scale. They are moving the "one ton" along with a whole bunch of other "one tons" Take the total fuel consumption, divide by length of trip and weight, in other words, ton-miles produced, and you get 423 ton miles per gallon, which can correctly be said as moving one ton of freight 423 miles on a gallon of fuel. I do not know how to make it any clearer than it has already been stated by some of the others here.
This engineering/statical/financial process you are talking about is called "normalizing" and is used to compare different processes by creating a common metric. Very common and very valid.

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