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#1 AutoTrDvr

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:08 PM

Having watched some YouTube videos of Amtrak Yard operations, I have heard some of the P32-8WH locomotives referred to as "Pepsi Cans."

 

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See this YouTube Video....  



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:09 PM

The previous paint scheme (red white and blue stripe) was similar to the old Pepsi can logo.  

 

For context:

 

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:35 PM

Every once in a while you can catch one doing "road" duty also. I had one as a second unit on the Crescent last year.



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:09 PM

The previous paint scheme (red white and blue stripe) was similar to the old Pepsi can logo.  

 

For context:

 

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Ah,,,, something that simple....  Thanks!



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:19 PM

There seems to be one regularly assigned to the Coast Starlight.


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:10 PM

When they got Phase IV, some started referring to them as Diet Pepsi Cans.

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:40 PM

I've been pulled by quite a few of these engines. But mostly when being added on and off trains. However on the road I've seen one lead the Empire Builder before in Seattle east.
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Posted 09 October 2018 - 06:09 PM

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Interesting both are of engine 511. :D
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Posted 09 October 2018 - 06:59 PM

And for reference, #511 today:

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 07:39 PM

From what I’ve heard, these engines are dog slow in revenue passenger service. These have 12 cylinders making 3200 hp, minus parasitic loss for HEP which can put it down as low as 2100 or 2200 available for traction. I guess routing that remaining horsepower through DC traction motors is the big difference from the P32ACDM, which I have not heard bad things about and is seemingly able to accelerate to 110 with a train fairly quickly from my experiences on the Empire corridor. Do the Dash 8s also load slower or something?

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:05 AM

Nice pictures!


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 10:36 PM

So, are these P32-8WH's  HEP enabled?    Or is there always a P40 - P42DC needed on the consist for HEP?



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 10:49 PM

So, are these P32-8WH's  HEP enabled?    Or is there always a P40 - P42DC needed on the consist for HEP?

They do. The P32-8BWH is basically just a freight loco with HEP added for passenger use.


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 11:22 PM

In locomotive model designation's, the letter 'P' somewhere, is usually an indication that a locomotive is equipped for passenger train support...in the steam heat era, it had a steam generator, in the HEP era, either a separate HEP engine generator, or a means of tapping the main engine for HEP....


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Posted Yesterday, 12:27 AM

In locomotive model designation's, the letter 'P' somewhere, is usually an indication that a locomotive is equipped for passenger train support...in the steam heat era, it had a steam generator, in the HEP era, either a separate HEP engine generator, or a means of tapping the main engine for HEP....

 

Ah, just like "F40PHn"      F (body style)  40  P(Passenger) H(HEP)  and then n "2/2D/3" etc.



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Posted Yesterday, 10:30 AM

In locomotive model designation's, the letter 'P' somewhere, is usually an indication that a locomotive is equipped for passenger train support...in the steam heat era, it had a steam generator, in the HEP era, either a separate HEP engine generator, or a means of tapping the main engine for HEP....

 

The "pepsi can" locomotives however can get difficult tho... as they have a couple different names. GE calls them either Dash 8-32BWH or B32-8WH, Amtrak calls them P32-8, and some folks call the P32-8WH. Personally I prefer the call them via the GE name, B32-8WH as it keeps confusion down with the P32-ACDM.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 12:37 PM

Story has it that when General Electric had production issues with the P-40 engines, they persuaded Amtrak to accept modified freight engines to "tide 'em over".

As a goodwill gesture, GE agreed to livery the P-32's anyway Amtrak wanted 'em for no additional cost over a "basic Black".

The Pepsi Can, a railfan or maybe a craft employee name, is what came to pass.

Just a story AFAIC.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:55 PM

Lots of food-related names have made it into the Amtrak lexicon. The AEM-7 electric locomotives that were used on the NEC were known, alternately, as “Swedish Meatballs” or “Toasters”.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:44 PM

Lots of food-related names have made it into the Amtrak lexicon. The AEM-7 electric locomotives that were used on the NEC were known, alternately, as “Swedish Meatballs” or “Toasters”.

 

I believe "Sweedish Meatballs" is a more generic term for the locomotive itself... Bioth SEPTA and NJ Transit used them extensively.  NJ Transit called them (officially)  ALP-44 units.  They were manufactured  by ABB Traction, a subsidiary of the ABB Group... a Sweedish and Swiss conglomerate co. I think it was the Sweedish part of the conglomerate (Aesa) that made them.  Hence, "Sweedish Meatballs."  

 

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Posted Yesterday, 05:56 PM

I thought I had a close-up picture of the "Pepsi Can" on the California Zephyr in May 1994, but it turns out my close-up is of the lead unit, which I thought was more exciting.  But I found this shot, which is also interesting because of the express cars:

 

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