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Posted 24 September 2018 - 04:27 PM

The Builder rolled into Winona Mn today with 3 head units and 19 cars!  8 private cars!  It was uniquely configured with the baggage car in the middle.  Very colorful.

 

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 04:29 PM

Well, you don't see that every day! Great catch!


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:25 PM

That is quite a long train.  I wonder why so  many private cars



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Posted 24 September 2018 - 06:57 PM

They're going to a gathering of private car owners in St. Paul. In the past, AAPCO would sponsor a special train, but, I guess, with Amtrak's new special train/private car rules, they opted for a ride on the Builder. 



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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:00 PM

Sorry, why are there two coaches between the SSL and Diner? Is that normal on the EB?


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:05 PM

Sorry, why are there two coaches between the SSL and Diner? Is that normal on the EB?

 

That's because the consist splits in Spokane, and the Portland half gets the Sightseer Lounge, while the Seattle half gets the diner. Usually the consist is something like:

7/8: Sleeper - Sleeper - Diner - Coach - Coach

27/28: SSL - Coach - Coach - Sleeper

 

There's always a split between the two because of that.



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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:10 PM

 

Sorry, why are there two coaches between the SSL and Diner? Is that normal on the EB?

 

That's because the consist splits in Spokane, and the Portland half gets the Sightseer Lounge, while the Seattle half gets the diner. Usually the consist is something like:

7/8: Sleeper - Sleeper - Diner - Coach - Coach

27/28: SSL - Coach - Coach - Sleeper

 

There's always a split between the two because of that.

 

Right but why couldn't they just put the Seattle coaches between the Diner and 7/8 sleepers? Just so that the Diner always isolates the Seattle sleepers from the coaches?


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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:28 PM

Right but why couldn't they just put the Seattle coaches between the Diner and 7/8 sleepers? Just so that the Diner always isolates the Seattle sleepers from the coaches?

 

Correct. The benefit of having the diner and the SSL next to each other is less than the benefit of having the diner separate the Seattle sleepers from the rest of the train. (The Seattle section has more of the sleepers; usually there's only one sleeper on the Portland section.) It also allows for the Seattle sleepers to be as close as possible to the diner, which sleeper passengers use 3x/day.


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