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#21 Mystic River Dragon

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:52 AM

Thirdrail7,

 

Thanks again. Your example of how the trains turn (or right now just can't be push-pull like they used to) explains a lot and clears up a lot of the confusion of why there are so many delays.

 

As for staffing, it sounds like you are essentially saying that the other commuter railroads and Amtrak have passed NJT by, offering better packages and of course a contract? Also, if they are forced to live in NJ, a lot of people would say no to any job right there--much better if you could live across the river in (much cheaper) PA and still work for NJT.

 

Although I follow trains a bit, I still needed to have all this explained to me. The sad thing is that the typical NJ commuter just wants to get to work and back, does not follow how trains work like we do here on AU, and probably does not realize that there are legitimate reasons for the mess. Therefore, they are, understandably, really upset with NJT right now. I like your point about making more trains from PJC locals with more stops. Because I only travel between Trenton and Princeton Junction, I can get any train, just as someone going to/from Hamilton can. But someone going farther north is limited in train choice if they need to take a local instead of an express. Not sure how the commuters would react to that, though--the ones who must wait for a local now would be happy, but those who take the express now and would get into New York 20 minutes later would be furious.

 

You are also exactly right about some wanting Atlantic City to fail (North/South again).

 

By the way, there is an article today in the Trenton Times asking "Is Steve Sweeney the most powerful person in New Jersey?" Unfortunately, I'm not sure how he feels about NJT.

 

Jim,

 

You are absolutely right about Florida. That sounds perfect, but perhaps in January or February. Right now, it would be like jumping from one frying pan into another, and, as you might have gathered from my rant about NJT on Friday, I get slightly irritable in hot weather :P. (If there were cancellations on a nice balmy 45 degree day, I would just say "Whatever--something will be along sometime" and be much more philosophical about it!) :)


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:47 PM

I'll help Transit out. Me and some friends just applied for engine service. Five men from the steam side. Besides it pays 76k after training a year. Not a bad gig.
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:49 PM

I'll help Transit out. Me and some friends just applied for engine service. Five men from the steam side. Besides it pays 76k after training a year. Not a bad gig.

The Bad News is you have to live in Expensive,Tax Crazy Jersey!😣

But Good Luck with the Gig!😉
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:50 PM

I'll help Transit out. Me and some friends just applied for engine service. Five men from the steam side. Besides it pays 76k after training a year. Not a bad gig.

The Bad News is you have to live in Expensive,Tax Crazy Jersey!

But Good Luck with the Gig!

I need something to do
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 11:01 PM

 

 

I'll help Transit out. Me and some friends just applied for engine service. Five men from the steam side. Besides it pays 76k after training a year. Not a bad gig.

The Bad News is you have to live in Expensive,Tax Crazy Jersey!

But Good Luck with the Gig!

I need something to do

 

 

Are you serious it pays that well! That's better than professional salaries in Chicago - how much does it increase over a hypothetical career and what benny's, like pension, health care, etc?


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 11:03 PM

 

 

I'll help Transit out. Me and some friends just applied for engine service. Five men from the steam side. Besides it pays 76k after training a year. Not a bad gig.

The Bad News is you have to live in Expensive,Tax Crazy Jersey!

But Good Luck with the Gig!
I need something to do
 
 
Are you serious it pays that well! That's better than professional salaries in Chicago - how much does it increase over a hypothetical career and what benny's, like pension, health care, etc?

That's what their website claims. Now how true it is I can't tell you. It qualifies for Railroad Retirement (which is what I really want), and they claim a good benefits package.
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:34 AM

Wow! Good luck, and keep us posted on how it goes! :)



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Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:59 PM

 

 

Are you serious it pays that well! That's better than professional salaries in Chicago - how much does it increase over a hypothetical career and what benny's, like pension, health care, etc?

 

 

https://www.njtransi...ageAction=JK7To

 

They also get sick time.

 


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They say laughter is the best medicine. Obviously they never posted on AU.


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 07:16 AM

Local newspaper today reported that Gov. Murphy wants the legislature to fast-track a bill to waive the residency requirement for engineers. State Senate president Sweeney agrees with the idea, but says that the legislature already has such a bill in the works.

 

So they are essentially arguing over who came up with the same idea first. Good grief. :huh:

 

However, it does look like a start, even if it's just for the engineers and not everyone else.



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 02:27 PM

Typical Politicial BS Patty!

As the Late,Great Harry Truman ( a Real Man of the People!)once said:
" A lot can be accomplished when it doesn't matter who gets the Credit!"
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Posted 19 August 2018 - 02:17 PM

Typical Politicial BS Patty!

As the Late,Great Harry Truman ( a Real Man of the People!)once said:
" A lot can be accomplished when it doesn't matter who gets the Credit!"

I'll bet he wanted credit for saying that. :giggle:






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