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#21 cpotisch

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:55 AM

 

 

 

On top of that, I'm one of those who prefers sleeping parallel to the direction of travel - and lying in bed and looking out the window.  Add it all up, and I think I actually prefer the roomette, unless by some quirk of the buckets the bedroom is actually significantly cheaper.

 

 

Can this happen?   I didn't think to check.   If it can happen then it would be a good tip to add the bedroom to your amsnag.

 

It 100% can happen, and I've seen it. Some of the buckets will sometimes overlap, so under the right circumstances, it is possible, and it's far from unheard of. However, if you can't afford a low bucket Bedroom anyway, it doesn't exactly help that a Roomette is more expensive.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

With the exception of the CS and Silvers, low bucket Bedrooms are lower than high bucket Roomettes by anywhere from $58 to $212.  Low bucket Family Bedrooms are lower than high bucket Roomettes on those trains having both by anywhere from $151 to $307.  But I've no idea how often such fares are offered on the same day and train.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:30 AM

On Viewliners I'll take the Roomette over the Bedrooms except when the H Room is available, which is the Best way to roll on Amtrak!

When traveling alone on Superliners, Rooms #3-#6 are my faves,but if another person Bedrooms are the way to go. As with others, I prefer to use the Downstairs Shower and Bathrooms over those in Bedrooms.

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:37 AM

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

Amen! The Superliner H room is a sad sad place. A curtained off bathroom without a shower combined with tiny windows and a roomette bed module? No thank you! Unless you have a wheelchair (which granted is kind of the point), it's pretty much pointless.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:39 AM

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

 

I don't think so. I've taken the H-Room a few times with my (now 86-year-old) father. We liked it.

 

To me, the worst choice is airline coach...or Greyhound!


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:44 AM

On the noise front--once I was assigned a roomette on the lower level. The family room was occupied by a family with kids and the grandparents were in a roomette also on the lower level. They kept their doors open, they chatted back and forth, and the kids romped in the hall. It was so noisy I asked the conductor to move me to a roomette upstairs if he could, and he did. My conclusion:  never book or accept a roomette on the lower level, due to the possibility of family/kids in the family room.

 

That said, the same can happen upstairs--families in roomettes, doors open, kids playing in the hall. So it's basically the luck of the draw. Still I would opt NOT to be on the lower level on a Superliner.



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:48 AM

 

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

 

I don't think so. I've taken the H-Room a few times with my (now 86-year-old) father. We liked it.

 

To me, the worst choice is airline coach...or Greyhound!

 

[rant] It's better than coach, but it's worse in every way than a Bedroom, and worse in almost every way (it does have a sink and toilet) than a Family Bedroom. And even Roomettes have the full length window going for them. In my opinion, the H room is just a combination of wasted space, a bad layout, minimal bathroom privacy and, and uncomfortable sleeping accommodations. Granted, it's the only room on the lower level with space for a wheelchair, but that's really it's only purpose. Passengers with limited mobility who don't use wheelchairs don't need it, and passengers without limited mobility really don't need it. [/rant]


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:07 AM

 

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

 
I don't think so. I've taken the H-Room a few times with my (now 86-year-old) father. We liked it.
 
To me, the worst choice is airline coach...or Greyhound!
 
[rant] It's better than coach, but it's worse in every way than a Bedroom, and worse in almost every way (it does have a sink and toilet) than a Family Bedroom. And even Roomettes have the full length window going for them. In my opinion, the H room is just a combination of wasted space, a bad layout, minimal bathroom privacy and, and uncomfortable sleeping accommodations. Granted, it's the only room on the lower level with space for a wheelchair, but that's really it's only purpose. Passengers with limited mobility who don't use wheelchairs don't need it, and passengers without limited mobility really don't need it. [/rant]
Have you ridden in the H room?

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:13 AM

 

 

 

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

 
I don't think so. I've taken the H-Room a few times with my (now 86-year-old) father. We liked it.
 
To me, the worst choice is airline coach...or Greyhound!
 
[rant] It's better than coach, but it's worse in every way than a Bedroom, and worse in almost every way (it does have a sink and toilet) than a Family Bedroom. And even Roomettes have the full length window going for them. In my opinion, the H room is just a combination of wasted space, a bad layout, minimal bathroom privacy and, and uncomfortable sleeping accommodations. Granted, it's the only room on the lower level with space for a wheelchair, but that's really it's only purpose. Passengers with limited mobility who don't use wheelchairs don't need it, and passengers without limited mobility really don't need it. [/rant]
Have you ridden in the H room?

Haven't been booked in it, but when I was on #422 in the Family Bedroom, the H room was open for a large portion of the trip. The SCA said it was fine for me to take a look in, sit down, etc, so I got a pretty good sense of the features and layout, and it did not strike me as a good layout. Of course, I didn't sleep in it or try out the beds, but I have done so in a Superliner Roomette before, which has the exact same sleeping layout. The roomette sleeping situation is fine for an entry-level sleeper option like a roomette, but in my opinion it's not in a room with buckets at least as high as that of a Bedroom or Family Bedroom. So I'm not a fan.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:16 AM

 

 

 

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

 
I don't think so. I've taken the H-Room a few times with my (now 86-year-old) father. We liked it.
 
To me, the worst choice is airline coach...or Greyhound!
 
[rant] It's better than coach, but it's worse in every way than a Bedroom, and worse in almost every way (it does have a sink and toilet) than a Family Bedroom. And even Roomettes have the full length window going for them. In my opinion, the H room is just a combination of wasted space, a bad layout, minimal bathroom privacy and, and uncomfortable sleeping accommodations. Granted, it's the only room on the lower level with space for a wheelchair, but that's really it's only purpose. Passengers with limited mobility who don't use wheelchairs don't need it, and passengers without limited mobility really don't need it. [/rant]
Have you ridden in the H room?
Not exactly, but last time I was on a Superliner I was in the Family Bedroom and the H room was open for a large portion of the trip. The SCA said I could take a look in, sit down, etc, and while that's not a particularly thorough test, it did not seem like a good set up. And I have taken a Superliner Roomette before, which has the exact same bed set up. That sleeping layout is fine for an entry-level sleeper option like a roomette, but given the H room buckets tend to be at least as high as that of a Bedroom or Family Bedroom, I'm not a fan.
You can’t even book the H room till 2 weeks before departure date unless you qualify. For those who qualify, it’s the same price as a roomette.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:26 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Worst choice is the H Room on Superliners!

 
I don't think so. I've taken the H-Room a few times with my (now 86-year-old) father. We liked it.
 
To me, the worst choice is airline coach...or Greyhound!
 
[rant] It's better than coach, but it's worse in every way than a Bedroom, and worse in almost every way (it does have a sink and toilet) than a Family Bedroom. And even Roomettes have the full length window going for them. In my opinion, the H room is just a combination of wasted space, a bad layout, minimal bathroom privacy and, and uncomfortable sleeping accommodations. Granted, it's the only room on the lower level with space for a wheelchair, but that's really it's only purpose. Passengers with limited mobility who don't use wheelchairs don't need it, and passengers without limited mobility really don't need it. [/rant]
Have you ridden in the H room?
Not exactly, but last time I was on a Superliner I was in the Family Bedroom and the H room was open for a large portion of the trip. The SCA said I could take a look in, sit down, etc, and while that's not a particularly thorough test, it did not seem like a good set up. And I have taken a Superliner Roomette before, which has the exact same bed set up. That sleeping layout is fine for an entry-level sleeper option like a roomette, but given the H room buckets tend to be at least as high as that of a Bedroom or Family Bedroom, I'm not a fan.
You can’t even book the H room till 2 weeks before departure date unless you qualify. For those who qualify, it’s the same price as a roomette.

 

I actually didn't know that the H room costs the same as a roomette for disabled passengers, but even so, the main context here was primarily just figuring out the most comfortable accommodation for able bodied passengers. And when I've looked, booking the H room for someone who isn't disabled has consistently been at least as expensive as the Bedroom and Family Bedroom.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:58 AM

What we really need is a reasonably priced no-frills, no meals single or double accommodation akin to the Slumbercoaches of the past. Those were always my first choice when I was younger and on a budget. Privacy, functionality, and I could bring my own food or purchase whatever I wanted and could afford in the club car or diner. I'd still consider those today even though I could afford a roomette or bedroom. 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:39 AM

I like the roomette on a Viewliner--for one person, it is fine. I have not tried a regular bedroom on a Superliner but would like to. I had the family bedroom both ways on the Empire Builder. It was nice to have four bottles of water, four towels, and four washcloths (I gave a couple of sets away to a couple who asked). However, I found it a bit bumpy--it must be over or near the wheels?


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:08 PM

I like the roomette on a Viewliner--for one person, it is fine. I have not tried a regular bedroom on a Superliner but would like to. I had the family bedroom both ways on the Empire Builder. It was nice to have four bottles of water, four towels, and four washcloths (I gave a couple of sets away to a couple who asked). However, I found it a bit bumpy--it must be over or near the wheels?

It's right next to the trucks. Because the floors on Superliners are so low, they can't have anything right over the wheels. That's also why the lower level is around half the length of the upper level. However, most people's experiences seem to indicate that the lower level is usually less bumpy than the upper level. Did it seem any less bumpy on the upper level?


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:34 PM

I travel single a lot.  For me the roomette is fine and I don't have a problem with the common restrooms and shower.  However, the one draw of the bedroom for me is the bed is much more comfortable, wider and a better mattress.

 

Drawback of the bedroom is that the couch could be facing backward and the little seat is pretty uncomfortable.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:53 PM

However, the one draw of the bedroom for me is the bed is much more comfortable, wider and a better mattress.

I'm pretty sure the mattresses are the exact same material and quality. The bed is a foot wider but I don't think it's better in any other metric.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:05 PM

cpotisch, I did find the lower level of the Superliner bumpier than the upper level, but maybe I was just assuming it would be that way so thought myself into it.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:20 PM

The trucks on a Superliner is just behind the wall in the Family Room on one end, and just behind the wall of the H-Room on the other end of the car.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:21 PM

Why is it that the Family Bedroom and the H room get the tiny square windows? Something to do with the structural position of the room?


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:26 PM

Actually they get the same amount of window space as any other room. The only difference is they both have windows on both sides of the car. Each window is about 1/2 the size of the windows in roomettes or bedrooms.
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