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Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:08 AM

I thought I would give a reference to a new (?) bus service out west.    Its a Sleeper bus.
 
My intention here, is to highlight the design.   I would think it could be easily adapted to single level passenger trains.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:10 AM

Instead of building a bunch of busses with a similar design, could Amtrak just charter a bunch of those buses and run them as a sleeper-only thruway coach?


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 10:26 AM

Build those into a coach and if a Viewliner design.....probably get 3 tier high. I'd certainly use it!

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

What I find humorous, is that the story is found in the AARP magazine, targeted at its senior citizen readership; but look at the ages of the traveler's depicted in the Cabin company publicity shots.   Imagine some senior's crawling into those cubbyholes.... :)

 

Here's a "road test" article .....   https://techcrunch.c...pod-bus-review/

 

How'd you like to occupy berth number "2B" with people preparing their snacks on your ceiling?

 

That operation could only work on a shorter trip, like its Los Angeles/San Francisco run, which is about 8 hours or so.  Any longer, and people would get claustrophobia in those tiny berths, where you can't even sit up on your bed.   The "lounge" is too small to accommodate every one on board at one time.

 

As far as triple-decking on a Viewliner, it would be hard (and hazardous) for people to climb steps into the top bunks.  A duplex design, like the old Slumbercoaches could work...


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:19 AM

This accommodation is intended for nighttime occupation only.  On a train, Amtrak's Roomette design is perhaps the most efficient use of space for two travelers in day or night mode with privacy.


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:38 AM

This accommodation is intended for nighttime occupation only.  On a train, Amtrak's Roomette design is perhaps the most efficient use of space for two travelers in day or night mode with privacy.

Yeah, it's sort of a much more spartan, less flexible, and just worse, slumbercoach. Why not just go back to the slumbercoach design? This design is fine for an 8 hour night trip, but I can't see it working on any day trip or multi night ride.


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 12:44 PM

I wonder if this would be a possible option for a Dodge City to ABQ bus bridge? Connection with a day train Dodge City to Chicago? Just throwing thoughts out there.

If I won the lottery, I'd probably build a passenger from nowhere to nowhere.


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:54 PM

Just take a bunch of old slumbercoaches and attach them to a bus chassis. It's like a cabin bus but nostalgia-y!  :P


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Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:49 PM

Just take a bunch of old slumbercoaches and attach them to a bus chassis. It's like a cabin bus but nostalgia-y!  :P

An 85' long, 10' foot wide Slumbercoach on the highway?   I don't think so..... :giggle:


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:20 AM

 

Just take a bunch of old slumbercoaches and attach them to a bus chassis. It's like a cabin bus but nostalgia-y!  :P

An 85' long, 10' foot wide Slumbercoach on the highway?   I don't think so..... :giggle:

Oh, I do think so. :giggle:  Jokes aside, I do stand by the idea of bringing back slumber coaches on short overnights and long day runs. And Cabin shows that a very spartan and simple version can work on a bus.


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 05:22 PM

Like those Capsule Hotels in Japan

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 05:58 PM

Like those Capsule Hotels in Japan

 

Pictures of the capsule hotels and this new bus both make me short of breath and tingly. I think the bus might be more tolerable, as the pod has both a window and mirror to make it feel larger, but then I look at that ceiling height and nope right out of there.

 

Claustrophobia aside, I think this is a neat idea. I'd love to be able to leave for an adventure after work, arrive rested in the morning, and then sleep while traveling home. I prefer red-eye flights for the same reason. (Sadly, it's hard to find a true red-eye nowadays.)


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 12:49 AM

 

. I prefer red-eye flights for the same reason. (Sadly, it's hard to find a true red-eye nowadays.)

 

Due to the time zones, "red-eye" flights are only popular in the US, when flying from the west to the east.   Back in the propeller era, there were many going west also, but the jet age speeds put an end to that.   Perhaps the last bastion of Red Eyes was the former Eastern Air Lines...they ran multistop, mail-carrying flights around the clock in all directions in their service area.

 

I flew a Northwest Orient B-707 overnite local from JFK to Seattle, back in around 1968 or so...it carried a lot of mail, and stopped in Detroit, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis enroute....


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:01 AM

I generally only fly red eyes flights back from the west coast if I can help it. I like having that extra day. And night flying isn't that bad.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:52 PM

There is a review on The Points Guy with pictures and all.

https://thepointsguy...nia-bus-review/


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:35 AM

There is a review on The Points Guy with pictures and all.

https://thepointsguy...nia-bus-review/

Interesting review, as well as comments that followed...thanks for posting it!


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 07:32 PM

 

There is a review on The Points Guy with pictures and all.

https://thepointsguy...nia-bus-review/

Interesting review, as well as comments that followed...thanks for posting it!

 

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 10:08 AM

There are other "sleeper bus" designs out there.... 

This one is geared more to charter's for group travel, with much less privacy than the Cabin design, and with seemingly less room in its berth's, but perhaps better for longer trips involving both day and night travel...

 

https://www.ventureb...ry-sleeper.html

 

Be sure to click on the last photo and then scroll thru all the photo's....  :)


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:10 PM

This also brings up something about AARP that has bothered me for a while. They have courses to improve your driving (a good idea, of course), but they also highlight driving and flying as the only transportation options (with maybe something like the Rocky Mountaineer mentioned as a vacation idea).

 

They don't highlight trains as a routine travel option, and I wonder why.

 

They also concentrate on all sorts of other issues (health care particularly) but don't address much of this country's lack of transportation options if you don't have a car or don't want to (or can't) drive as you get older, which is a basic issue for older people. They just seem to assume everyone will drive til they can't, then too bad, just stay home.


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 08:56 PM

The only thing I can think of, regarding the AARP, is perhaps they don't think Amtrak is 'reliable' enough to promote it as a travel option...

I don't agree with that, especially since retiree's typically are not under time pressure's, but just a guess.... :unsure:


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