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#1 Thirdrail7

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 03:52 PM

According to the water cooler reports,  "Save Amtrak, Fire Richard Anderson "billboards have appeared in Pennsylvania.  I was told they were erected near Juniata.  A search revealed a  Fire Anderson billboards thread on TO, stating they may be around Philadelphia.

 

While I can't say I've seen pictures of the billboards (if they actually exist), I can confirm the same search revealed a hat on Ebay with the same slogan.

 

 

Apparently, people wore them to Pennsylvania Railroad Technical and Historical Society Annual Meeting last week. That may involve the charter train that Amtrak declined to operate, which may explain things.

 

Personally, I don't think it will do much good. This is particularly true since he is following PRIIA's mandate. While there have been some hiccups and serious miscommunication, I'm not seeing the basis for the vitriol that has headed in his direction. I haven't really seen anything that should warrant termination, removal or even a serious change in his thinking. He is still working it out. We don't have a fully formed vision. While I believe he should have more time, I also believe the Board of Directors should chart a clear path for him to follow.

 

I considered putting this tidbit in the existing Richard Anderson CEO thread but figured this may be worthy of its own discussion.  Naturally, the mods will make the final call and merge if necessary.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:35 PM

I’ve seen photos of them on Facebook. Sitting at a traffic light so I can’t pull them down.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:53 PM

I guess Bennett Levin is ticked off because of the cancellation of his E8 charter and is letting off steam by posting billboards on the property of Juniata which he controls.

Reminds me of the few dueling billboards that we have seen in the past.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:54 PM

This link should be publicly visible.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:05 PM

Luckily there is at least one pro-Anderson billboard to help counter the blowback. 

 

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:08 PM

I don't think Anderson should be fired, since a lot of the blame/credit for some of the recent changes isn't just for him. And I feel like a campaign like this, which wants the CEO kicked out altogether, really delegitimizes those of us who (somewhat) understand the challenges involved in maintaining quality of service and amenities in this climate. And even if a bunch of people really do feel like kicking out Anderson is the best choice, an angry roadside campaign most likely will get written of as just that, whereas a letter campaign or something like that can really let the people in power know what you want. Just my opinion.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:24 PM

I'm not necessarily a fan of firing the Amtrak CEO, but the flip side is that there needs to be a price to be paid for attacking LD trains and curtailing services.  So much of what I read consists of folks saying that the only way to support Amtrak is to keep riding and not make a fuss.  I'm ready to make a fuss.  And if LD trains go away, my letter writing in support for Amtrak goes away too, as I'm sure it will for the 47 other states that won't have fully paid Amtrak service.  In the meantime, maybe some of the radical rock throwers will push Amtrak's management to try to make amends and work with stakeholders who use trains throughout the country.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:25 PM

There are some of us who are all but out of work because of him. I have a bumper sticker on my car with Save Amtrak fire Anderson. And I'm not ashamed to say I have it.

It was designed by someone who just bought his first private car. And given to me by an Amtrak employee. I would love to see Anderson go but I also want to see Stephen Gardner go right along with him. Before the things I've heard are coming.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 10:01 PM

I'm wondering why people haven't turned their attention and wrath on the Board Of Directors.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 04:37 AM

I'm wondering why people haven't turned their attention and wrath on the Board Of Directors.

Because most of the rants are from people wearing “I hate airlines” blinders. They can only see the guy from the airlines.
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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:05 AM

This just proves that even a millionaire can act like a fifth grader at the playground, but I guess we already knew that. 


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:15 AM

I've known that about Mr. Levin for quite sometime. So has most of the industry I'm afraid. This issue were having is coordinating an attack plan (probably not the best of phrases) in an industry that is used to attacking other members of it constantly. The reason we can't go after the Amtrak board is we can't get all 300 of us to agree on one thing.

Half of the industry doesn't even want to see Anderson fired. But now that the puppet master is upset something might just change. Personally I want rid of Gardner, then Anderson in that order.
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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:18 AM

This just proves that even a millionaire can act like a fifth grader at the playground, but I guess we already knew that. 

Specially when his favorite ox is gored :P

 

When Boardman was around everyone was abuzz with how an experienced executive from the transportation industry would do wonders for Amtrak. As the Chinese proverb says ... well I guess I need to consult with Ivanka first to figure out what it says ... so hold on :D


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:55 AM

One of my commuter friends (she heads to Philly from TRE and I go north) told me those signs are, indeed, there. On the left going southbound, just before the North Philadelphia station.

 

I'm going down in a few days and will look for them and let you know what I see.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:13 AM

Isn't the Juniata property on the right of the Amtrak ROW when one is heading towards Philly? Or am I remembering wrong?



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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:25 AM

Well, she told me the signs were on the left going down there, but she might have been wrong.



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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:56 AM

It is far too early to think about firing a new CEO who was handed a great many issues and initiatives, including the changes to the dining car menus. Give the guy a chance to see what he can do. We all agree airlines have little in common with the rail industry other than moving people, and undoubtedly he has a steep learning curve but he "ain't" dumb and will figure it out. He has some harsh realities to confront. I, too, am at least a little alarmed at the thought of the national system being disrupted but the bottom line is even a Republican Congress is going to push back against trains being discontinued in their back yards. It's been mentioned earlier in another forum that Anderson didn't have to deal with politicians at Delta, and that is surely sinking in by now. Truth is, as painful as the dining car changes are to me, maybe something had to be done given the realities. This isn't 1955. We can just hope as they test and learn that there will be tweaks to enhance what they've started, and, who knows, maybe someday some semblance of the traditional service will return if the new service is deemed a failure. Like many here, though, I don't get the charter decision at all, but I may not fully understand the ramifications on daily Amtrak operations. But if it made a profit, then what's the issue? We'll all have to stay tuned.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 12:52 PM

Anderson is doing what's right for Amtrak and what he's mandated to do under the law. Yes, it'll piss most of us off. No one likes paying more for less. No one.

Most all of his station staffing cuts make sense.

His dining cuts make sense - but was poorly executed. I would like to have seen a new IG report to see if the waste addressed in the 2004(5?) report was fixed and what revenue was recovered. I'd like to see the 24-hour diner concept revitalized.

AGR sucks now, but it's closer to what the airlines do.

The Private Rail Car movement was also poorly executed but the right thing to do. Stop slowing down hundreds of passengers for the benefit of an elite few. Biggest problem here is that people don't all have their private varnish parked in a 30-minute dwell station.

Don't forget, many of the cuts that we're complaining about started before Anderson - the loss of flowers, linen table clothes, 2nd chef in the diner happened long ago.

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 01:18 PM

Anderson is doing what's right for Amtrak and what he's mandated to do under the law. Yes, it'll piss most of us off. No one likes paying more for less. No one.

Most all of his station staffing cuts make sense.

His dining cuts make sense - but was poorly executed. I would like to have seen a new IG report to see if the waste addressed in the 2004(5?) report was fixed and what revenue was recovered. I'd like to see the 24-hour diner concept revitalized.

AGR sucks now, but it's closer to what the airlines do.

The Private Rail Car movement was also poorly executed but the right thing to do. Stop slowing down hundreds of passengers for the benefit of an elite few. Biggest problem here is that people don't all have their private varnish parked in a 30-minute dwell station.

Don't forget, many of the cuts that we're complaining about started before Anderson - the loss of flowers, linen table clothes, 2nd chef in the diner happened long ago.

 

Bingo.  Anderson was the best CEO in an industry (airlines) that was long considered the worst industry known to exist from a profitability standpoint.  That industry has improved safety dramatically- it has a safety record that puts railroads to shame.  It has improved customer service as measured by satisfaction.  It's profitable now.

 

Amtrak has a ton of problems.  Changes are needed.  He needs to be given time.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 01:44 PM

My biggest issue with the Anderson administration is the straight up lies.

“We will not bus passengers between Klamath Falls and Eugene because it is an overnight trip.”

Um, no it is not. But they are okay bussing passengers between Seattle/Portland and Spokane, when they get into Spokane at 1 in the morning?

Then there is the SWC letter that completely twisted the true operating realities of the route to make it look worse.

I do not have much faith in someone whose previous railroad experience consisted of riding a train out of Galveston 50 years ago.


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